Benefactor (contains spoilers)
Anyone notice that the races the benefactor used? Because I only remember krogen, turian, asari, human, and salarian.
In ME3 you can get a picture of Tali so you know what a quarian looks like. I...
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SAM did not have the resources (and probably not even the skill, still being worked on) at the time when the Benefactor recruited Alec with the promise to allow him to finish SAM. Unless SAM can time travel, he's not the benefactor.
@arthurh3535 wrote:
SAM did not have the resources (and probably not even the skill, still being worked on) at the time when the Benefactor recruited Alec with the promise to allow him to finish SAM. Unless SAM can time travel, he's not the benefactor.
This is not true, and I have already commented on this in a different topic: http://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/Could-the-Benefactor-Be-a-Shadowbroker/m-p/6006746/highlight/true#M8385
Andromeda Initiative was founded in 2176 and started on its way in 2185. Alec started to work on SAM in 2160's, and worked on it/him for many more years (You can easily see it in "hidden" memories that SAM existed long before Andromeda Initiative). It is quite obvious that SAM gained consciousness much earlier than on 31-DEC-2185 - I would bet os something much more close to 2160s, or 2170s at the latest. There was a lot of time for SAM to gain experience, discover connections, and to collect funds. Please note that Benefactor contacted Alec for the first time when Alec had no more money to spend on further SAM's development. So it was in best interest of SAM to find some way to provide more resources to Alec in order to be improved/developed even further...
@Kondaru wrote:
@arthurh3535 wrote:
SAM did not have the resources (and probably not even the skill, still being worked on) at the time when the Benefactor recruited Alec with the promise to allow him to finish SAM. Unless SAM can time travel, he's not the benefactor.
This is not true, and I have already commented on this in a different topic: http://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/Could-the-Benefactor-Be-a-Shadowbroker/m-p/6006746/highlight/true#M8385
Andromeda Initiative was founded in 2176 and started on its way in 2185. Alec started to work on SAM in 2160's, and worked on it/him for many more years (You can easily see it in "hidden" memories that SAM existed long before Andromeda Initiative). It is quite obvious that SAM gained consciousness much earlier than on 31-DEC-2185 - I would bet os something much more close to 2160s, or 2170s at the latest. There was a lot of time for SAM to gain experience, discover connections, and to collect funds. Please note that Benefactor contacted Alec for the first time when Alec had no more money to spend on further SAM's development. So it was in best interest of SAM to find some way to provide more resources to Alec in order to be improved/developed even further...
"capabilities and analysis beyond human faculties"
"real time feedback and analysis of the situation"
SAM was created to solve the Pathfinder's problems.
I can't think of bigger threats to the Pathfinder than his project not moving forward. As quickly as it assesses the threat to you on the Archon's ship and comes up with a solution that both saves AND kills you (at least we know SAM won't hang on some future paradox) I'd think it would accurately assess the Reaper threat. The Andromeda Initiative is a viable solution to that threat to the Pathfinder.
@jpcerutti1 wrote:
@Kondaru wrote:
@arthurh3535 wrote:
SAM did not have the resources (and probably not even the skill, still being worked on) at the time when the Benefactor recruited Alec with the promise to allow him to finish SAM. Unless SAM can time travel, he's not the benefactor.
This is not true, and I have already commented on this in a different topic: http://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/Could-the-Benefactor-Be-a-Shadowbroker/m-p/6006746/highlight/true#M8385
Andromeda Initiative was founded in 2176 and started on its way in 2185. Alec started to work on SAM in 2160's, and worked on it/him for many more years (You can easily see it in "hidden" memories that SAM existed long before Andromeda Initiative). It is quite obvious that SAM gained consciousness much earlier than on 31-DEC-2185 - I would bet os something much more close to 2160s, or 2170s at the latest. There was a lot of time for SAM to gain experience, discover connections, and to collect funds. Please note that Benefactor contacted Alec for the first time when Alec had no more money to spend on further SAM's development. So it was in best interest of SAM to find some way to provide more resources to Alec in order to be improved/developed even further...
"capabilities and analysis beyond human faculties"
"real time feedback and analysis of the situation"
SAM was created to solve the Pathfinder's problems.
I can't think of bigger threats to the Pathfinder than his project not moving forward. As quickly as it assesses the threat to you on the Archon's ship and comes up with a solution that both saves AND kills you (at least we know SAM won't hang on some future paradox) I'd think it would accurately assess the Reaper threat. The Andromeda Initiative is a viable solution to that threat to the Pathfinder.
SAM was created to solve Ellen's problems, possibly with a side of making an edge for humanity. I'm actually surprised that TIM didn't provide Alec backing. SAM wasn't adapted for Pathfinder support until AFTER Alec joined the Initiative at the Benefactor's request. Whether this still fits with the rest of your assessment I don't know.
@fudgietroll wrote:
@jpcerutti1 wrote:
@Kondaru wrote:
@arthurh3535 wrote:
SAM did not have the resources (and probably not even the skill, still being worked on) at the time when the Benefactor recruited Alec with the promise to allow him to finish SAM. Unless SAM can time travel, he's not the benefactor.
This is not true, and I have already commented on this in a different topic: http://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/Could-the-Benefactor-Be-a-Shadowbroker/m-p/6006746/highlight/true#M8385
Andromeda Initiative was founded in 2176 and started on its way in 2185. Alec started to work on SAM in 2160's, and worked on it/him for many more years (You can easily see it in "hidden" memories that SAM existed long before Andromeda Initiative). It is quite obvious that SAM gained consciousness much earlier than on 31-DEC-2185 - I would bet os something much more close to 2160s, or 2170s at the latest. There was a lot of time for SAM to gain experience, discover connections, and to collect funds. Please note that Benefactor contacted Alec for the first time when Alec had no more money to spend on further SAM's development. So it was in best interest of SAM to find some way to provide more resources to Alec in order to be improved/developed even further...
"capabilities and analysis beyond human faculties"
"real time feedback and analysis of the situation"
SAM was created to solve the Pathfinder's problems.
I can't think of bigger threats to the Pathfinder than his project not moving forward. As quickly as it assesses the threat to you on the Archon's ship and comes up with a solution that both saves AND kills you (at least we know SAM won't hang on some future paradox) I'd think it would accurately assess the Reaper threat. The Andromeda Initiative is a viable solution to that threat to the Pathfinder.
SAM was created to solve Ellen's problems, possibly with a side of making an edge for humanity. I'm actually surprised that TIM didn't provide Alec backing. SAM wasn't adapted for Pathfinder support until AFTER Alec joined the Initiative at the Benefactor's request. Whether this still fits with the rest of your assessment I don't know.
Still doesn't break the chain. To solve Ellen's problem you have to keep her and research alive past the Reaper deadline - which is the more immediate threat once you've decided upon cryo and waiting.
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