8 years ago
Conspiracy Theory
Ok, here's another weird coincidence. So Alec has been working on these crazy experimental implants (with Ellen) made to keep Ellen alive when she should be dead. During this time Miranda, Wilson, an...
All I know is that Cerberus would never support a mission that benefits aliens. If they were behind it, there would only be humans in all those Arks.
Doesn't mean that for example Ellen Ryder couldn't be ex-Cerberus of course...
@EgoMania wrote:
All I know is that Cerberus would never support a mission that benefits aliens. If they were behind it, there would only be humans in all those Arks.
Doesn't mean that for example Ellen Ryder couldn't be ex-Cerberus of course...
This is not necessarily true: Cerberus was about *supremacy* of humans, not really anti-alien. There were numerous aliens on Normandy-2, and TIM was not against cooperating with aliens if it benefited him.
So as long as Andromeda Initiative is given all the alien state-of-art equipment (plus copies of blueprints of alien toys go to TIM as well) and funds; AND if there is some way to make sure that humans will prevail (e.g. by sabotaging some of the other Arks, or otherwise supporting humans)... Why not?
@Kondaru wrote:
@EgoMania wrote:
All I know is that Cerberus would never support a mission that benefits aliens. If they were behind it, there would only be humans in all those Arks.
Doesn't mean that for example Ellen Ryder couldn't be ex-Cerberus of course...
This is not necessarily true: Cerberus was about *supremacy* of humans, not really anti-alien. There were numerous aliens on Normandy-2, and TIM was not against cooperating with aliens if it benefited him.
So as long as Andromeda Initiative is given all the alien state-of-art equipment (plus copies of blueprints of alien toys go to TIM as well) and funds; AND if there is some way to make sure that humans will prevail (e.g. by sabotaging some of the other Arks, or otherwise supporting humans)... Why not?
My view is that if Cerberus wanted to spread their chances, they wouldn't back a mission to another universe bringing more Aliens than Humans. They would've also brought a bunch of their own to this Universe to manipulate the * out of everyone and there killing Jien might've been an unfortunate necessity, but letting Aliens run the show while things go to * especially...Nah I just don't really see it.
Mind you, nothing is 100% certain but I hold it for very unlikely.
Well... They could have had some good plans... that simply misfired due to Scourge.
And then Cora Harper - probably daughter to TIM and leader of Cerberus agents in Andromeda - instead of conspiring against those remaining aliens fell into Ryder... :-/
@EgoMania wrote:
All I know is that Cerberus would never support a mission that benefits aliens. If they were behind it, there would only be humans in all those Arks.
Doesn't mean that for example Ellen Ryder couldn't be ex-Cerberus of course...
I have seen this said so many times and it just isn't true.
Cerberus isn't against aliens. They are for humanity. There is a difference.
Cerberus is not against using aliens to move humanity forwards. That would include funding for the initiative to save the humans involved. Having aliens around in this case actually helps the humans involved because they each have their strengths. Cerberus specifically pointed Shepard to aliens who could help her un ME2. What they would do is make moves towards putting humanity on top.
So if we are talking about conspiracies... lets look at the fact that the benefactor seems to have been communicating with the Kett and that somehow its the human ark that crash landed on Meridian- putting humanity in charge of what's likely to be the most important tech in Andromeda.
Out of all the groups we know, Cerberus is the most likely to have manoovered the entire thing to put humanity infront while the other aliens are still around to help assist with their ongoing survival.
While I am at it - lets not rule out anyone who was in ME3.
Its very likely whoever provided that funding could have had access to all of the technology that created the arks and clearly they have money.
Whats stopping them building a smaller, faster ark and not only over taking the other arks but beating them to Andromeda?
@Nykara360 wrote:
While I am at it - lets not rule out anyone who was in ME3.
Its very likely whoever provided that funding could have had access to all of the technology that created the arks and clearly they have money.
Whats stopping them building a smaller, faster ark and not only over taking the other arks but beating them to Andromeda?
I'm just going to say - it probably isn't Shepard. Although... if you do destroy with enough troops he survives, and it is a fast ark...
@Nykara360 wrote:
@EgoMania wrote:
All I know is that Cerberus would never support a mission that benefits aliens. If they were behind it, there would only be humans in all those Arks.
Doesn't mean that for example Ellen Ryder couldn't be ex-Cerberus of course...
I have seen this said so many times and it just isn't true.
Cerberus isn't against aliens. They are for humanity. There is a difference.
Cerberus is not against using aliens to move humanity forwards. That would include funding for the initiative to save the humans involved. Having aliens around in this case actually helps the humans involved because they each have their strengths. Cerberus specifically pointed Shepard to aliens who could help her un ME2. What they would do is make moves towards putting humanity on top.
So if we are talking about conspiracies... lets look at the fact that the benefactor seems to have been communicating with the Kett and that somehow its the human ark that crash landed on Meridian- putting humanity in charge of what's likely to be the most important tech in Andromeda.
Out of all the groups we know, Cerberus is the most likely to have manoovered the entire thing to put humanity infront while the other aliens are still around to help assist with their ongoing survival.
Sorry but you sound like the marketing department of Cerberus. That's splitting hairs on the level of justification. That's exactly how Cerberus would sell themselves. You are right that they are not against USING aliens if it furthers their purposes but they do have a live and let die policy more than anything. They clearly have a sense of arrogance where they feel that humans are above all other alien races and that is a type of rethoric we've seen in human history before.
Now, you do make a couple of interesting points outside of that and I'm trying to remember at which point we find out that the mysterious benefactor has been in contact with the Kett. Could you remind me of when that happened?