@Vellu78 wrote:DUDE!
All hairstyles available regardless of gender....Ponytails for guys! Spit out my coffee here...😛
Yep, that's the new gender fluid Bioware. Enjoy.
How hard is it to make a white person look like a white person?
@MeinChurro wrote:How hard is it to make a white person look like a white person?
It's not hard, but there are only 2-3 presets you can properly pull it of. The others have way too "ethnic" skull shapes/face structures to look caucasian even if you get the skin tone right.
The opposites are true also, you can't make an asian, black or any other ethnicity with all of the presets, just a few.
Oh boy, the new female preset is lookin' reeal good. Dethroned my current fav. Sara appearance.
Well, I was more criticizing what BIOWARE gave to us. This is the absolute worse character creator I have seen in years. Their games from a decade ago had better character creators. This is absolutely absurd.
This is what i did with the new sara preset
@CasperTheLich wrote:This is what i did with the new sara preset
The spitting image of my new Sara. 😎
@MeinChurro wrote:Well, I was more criticizing what BIOWARE gave to us. This is the absolute worse character creator I have seen in years. Their games from a decade ago had better character creators. This is absolutely absurd.
Agreed!!! I do Not understand what is with them... They have No Aesthetic perception anymore??? All I can think is that they are doing this on purpose or they simply don't care about their product.
What is the deal with Not doing some better looking characters??? Unbelievable. 🤔
@CasperTheLich wrote:This is what i did with the new sara preset
Sweet! I want one!
Folks need to calm down a little. There are many top titles where you have zero character customization. Its extra free content, that they didn't have to do. They could have made a pack and sold it, and people would have still bought it. Also the entire game is on a new engine (frostbite) so they older techniques they learned and implemented for Unreal Engine are no longer viable. That means its going to take time, and effort to get HQ facial systems that not only work properly, but look realistic.
It's not like they are doing nothing and abandoning the title. 8 patches so far, and likely several more over time. Once the game is cured of its major issues and bugs, it gives them a much more robust platform to create better content.
@lexandro_Albion wrote:Folks need to calm down a little. There are many top titles where you have zero character customization. Its extra free content, that they didn't have to do. They could have made a pack and sold it, and people would have still bought it. Also the entire game is on a new engine (frostbite) so they older techniques they learned and implemented for Unreal Engine are no longer viable. That means its going to take time, and effort to get HQ facial systems that not only work properly, but look realistic.
It's not like they are doing nothing and abandoning the title. 8 patches so far, and likely several more over time. Once the game is cured of its major issues and bugs, it gives them a much more robust platform to create better content.
That is no excuse at all they had an immensely better character creator on frostbite engine with DAI.
@Vellu78 wrote:
@MeinChurro wrote:How hard is it to make a white person look like a white person?
It's not hard, but there are only 2-3 presets you can properly pull it of. The others have way too "ethnic" skull shapes/face structures to look caucasian even if you get the skin tone right.
The opposites are true also, you can't make an asian, black or any other ethnicity with all of the presets, just a few.
Its all about texture, bump maps, normal maps and some displacement maps. All the sculls (head meshes) are the same due to rigging constraints. If they had different sculls they would have to use either different weights for skinning, or different bone sets.
The same with the human and asari bodies. The length of the legs are the same for male and female,... except the female torso is shorter to allow a height difference between male and female. At least that's how they are in this game.
The reason why they look ugly is because their facial textures are ugly. LOL You can use anyone's face picture to place it as a texture, but in character creator those don't look like they had any references, unless they used a microscope to find actual people that look that deformed.
I pulled Peebee, Sara and Scott Ryder's meshes out of the game and i saw how they are made.
Take a look at default body and head and imagine the face difference u see in game compared to the default heads you see below.
Look at the lips, nose and eye shapes they look cool.... the facial textures they give us in game are in fact ugly.
i have to disagree with your opinion about the mesh used for the stock sara face. to me it still seems like the jaw & cheekbones are still at unnatural angles (imho). i can still see it without the textures, though i guess the right texture could mitigate that slightly.
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@MeinChurro wrote:
@lexandro_Albion wrote:Folks need to calm down a little. There are many top titles where you have zero character customization. Its extra free content, that they didn't have to do. They could have made a pack and sold it, and people would have still bought it. Also the entire game is on a new engine (frostbite) so they older techniques they learned and implemented for Unreal Engine are no longer viable. That means its going to take time, and effort to get HQ facial systems that not only work properly, but look realistic.
It's not like they are doing nothing and abandoning the title. 8 patches so far, and likely several more over time. Once the game is cured of its major issues and bugs, it gives them a much more robust platform to create better content.
That is no excuse at all they had an immensely better character creator on frostbite engine with DAI.
Agreed! Character creation can be way better. :eahigh_file:
I didn't say anything about textures. Perhaps you mistook my post for someone else. I know how the system works, I have modified Bioware content many times. Your example was not required, nor is it actually relevant.
The reactions are OTT. Its free additional content.
As for the "But DAI....." arguments, they don't fly. Its a completely different studio. Internal politics caused issues between ME and DA development teams. Also DAI has much smaller map areas, and much less content. It relies on zone repetition to increase its playtime. By contrast MEA only requires backtracking in minimal instances in direct comparison. And yes I have played it, quite thoroughly I might add.
Its fine to say " I dont like it", but to say things such as "there is no excuse" for content not meeting your personal standards is foolhardy, and frankly unfair on the title itself.
I come from a generation where you didnt even have these vast open world games, nor even any real graphical content. The technology and code involved in modern gaming is frankly staggering, and requires a huge amount of effort and time to do it justice. But in the real world, deadlines mean no title is ever "done" right first time out.
@fudgietroll wrote:Sweet! I want one!
if you'd like... i might be able to drop a link to that sara from the hero gallery. beats trying to tweak the sliders for 30 minutes.
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figured i'd post it here anyway. hope this works, as this is the first time i've tried doing this.
here's the sibling too, as i try to at least have them look sort of alike.
Need to tone this blush thing down a bit but I am pretty happy with the new face.
Slap a dragon on her shoulder and you can call her Khaleesi.
@IIIPripyaTIII wrote:Slap a dragon on her shoulder and you can call her Khaleesi.
Hehe, just made me think of this
