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6 years ago

How did the reapers never fail a cycle

By fail i mean how did the reapers never miss anything when cleaning up. 

First off I know there isnt much info so some cycles could have had survivors that then got wiped out in the following cycle but we dont know of any at this point.

So thinking about it, it does not require millions of people to maintain a population, if a small amount of survivors (hundreds? thousands? i dont know the minimum) were to survive until the reapers left surely they could repopulate whatever planet they are on and unless they are fools they would teach most of what they know to their children meaning that they should have a jumpstart in tech compared to a normal primitive species that takes thousands of years to gain advanced tech. Keeping in mind some species like the krogan are known to breed quicker than humans so imagine how few people would need to survive for them to repopulate. like 2 dozen krogan? and they can survive such harsh environments too, assuming krogan are the hardiest species to have EVER lived that is still quite a difficult species to stamp out. 

We know that the reapers dont FULLY wipe out civilisations because both the current cycle and the protheans have found ruins of the cycle before them so if the reapers have been known to miss some facilities or just not do a perfect job destroying them that tells me there is a margin for error and people could be missed too right? 

I am also wondering has anyone heard if the reapers destroy planets (whether intentionally or not) when they reap a species? By destroy i just mean make it unable to support life. I ask this because i swear in the first or 2nd game there is a planet with a 'scar' on it from a powerful weapon long  ago. I cant imagine the reapers or another species would blast a planet unless someone used to live there so i am curious if the battle was so fierce the planet no longer supports life or if it just naturally lost the ability to support life over many cycles. Assuming planets are left lifeless the galaxy would surely be running out of planets that support life but if the reapers dont ruin planets that just makes me wonder how no one ever repopulated a planet after a cycle. 

Random side piece i thought of while typing all this. Imagine if bioware pulled a halo and decided that there were 'ancient humans' who were in a previous cycle and got beaten back to a primitive state but the ones that survived repopulated and made it to the current cycle we know from the trilogy. Might be a good excuse for a game 3 cycles ago with the citadel, relays and new species xD Bad idea sorry haha

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  • This will be a decently long reply, and 3 years later but here goes.

    The Reapers more or less likely had a twofold reason for leaving evidence of previous civilizations yet clearing out all (or about 95%) of the current advanced population before they leave.  To the first, they're exceptionally destructive and would largely wipe out most of the infrastructure of every single system...almost down to the studs.  But they and their servants do miss things...weapons/tech/structures which may just be beneath their concern, or intentional to guide the development of the next cycle (without a bit of help 50k years may not be enough for their next harvest to do much).  An example on this is the ruins found on mars...humanity was barely able to get out of the Sol system at the time, found a data cache that lead them to discover the dormant mass relay on the edge of the system AND boosted their tech by several hundred years (spoken about in ME1).  Furthermore they still hadn't even finished analyzing it by ME3 so there could have been much more they just hadn't uncovered yet.  Jaavik mentions the previous cycle being the Insuannon i believe that were the Protheans of their time, so leaving behind SOME evidence, just not the 'what the hell happened' seems fairly standard for them. 

    As for the population...the game largely infers that the cycles have been going on for at least a billion years, perhaps more.  The Argus of Rho reaper was killed 37 million years prior to the current cycle thats countless (well, i mean figuratively) numbers ago.  The first few cycles largely were a learning curve that *spoiler* the Intelligence was getting his methods and practices in place, not to mention having to build a large enough Reaper fleet to cleanse the galaxy.  Likely the first few dozen cycles weren't every 50k years when you only have 50 or 100 reapers vs current numbers of the 10k, or 100k,  or more of the *.  Or it was at least 50k years between cycles, but again early ones may have taken milennia to fully cleanse the galaxy of its advanced populace until the Reapers could make sufficient numbers of their kind.

    However, their goal was the same.  Reduce all advanced life to next to nil, jump back into darkspace, wait until they got the signal for the next cycle to begin.  Vigil explains that agents of the Reapers were left behind to die from exposure or starvation at the end of their cycle...those indoctrinated rapidly that couldn't function anymore without their overlords instructions.  So the Reapers DO leave some populace behind, but aren't concerned about them living long enough to do anything functional since they're all drooling idiots without the masters whip.  Yes, there may be species like the Krogan that can breed faster than the speed of light, but they would absolutely be targeted on a cycle so they wouldn't provide early aid/a greater threat for the next advancing species.  ME3 had Liara seeding planets with time capsules explaining everything, having the blueprints for the crucible, everything the next cycle would need...likely previous cycles couldn't do that or never thought of it (even the Prothean warning on the beacons didn't give any info, just that the Reapers were bad).

    And with the repopulating planets, just look at ME1 for Feros.  That was a former prothean planet with lots of structure still available, if little else.  But the colony was there and starting to grow self sufficient before the geth started to set them back.  So even had a planet been horribly irradiated, or largely burned to ash...the next cycle or a few down the road likely had a species that could survive there, or it'd recover enough to be used once more.  Destructive, yes...but planet destroying, no on the Reapers...even with their numbers they don't have that much power (not counting species doing it to themselves or trying to stop an invasion, but the Reapers have a goal and blowing up planets sorta crimps that).

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