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I Like Sloane
There, I said it.
I know you(Bioware) want me to pick Reyes, and made her one of the few killable characters in the game, but she's straight with me and the world, has a beautifully complicated ba...
Sloane great pick
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@Kondaru wrote:
Errol Flynn for comparing to Reyes - Kevin Costner was too serious and not "enjoying" his role so much. ;-)
There are many datapad and terminal messages that are leftovers from Outcasts even after Collective takes over the port, so perhaps that is one of them. I am not sure which one You are mentioning exactly but since Collective is not truly working as militia after High Noon it doesn't make much sense to be related to them
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All the same, I do understand that Reyes in not an angel, and that Collective is not made of honorable citizens. I definitely understand that Reyes can be perceived as snake in the grass - though I still find him preferable to Sloane. You know, as soon as I know that there is snake in the grass, and as soon as I *see* the snake, I really do prefer it over agitated bull charging on me time after time. Especially if I can use snake's venom to prepare some medicines... ;-)
Yes, I do believe that Reyes really mocks Sloane because of some personal issue. Perhaps it is out of malice; but perhaps he has some kind of compulsion to humiliate own foes (not unlike many famous vigilante - like Zorro, some Marvel/DC superheros, etc.). As already stated: I find it repelling, and I really do not like the moment. Sloane is dead, the deed is done, mission accomplished - no need to mock the dead. But I still believe that Sloane deserves it all, and in some way it displays just how misguided and ineffective she was.
True, Sloane never actually lies to Ryder, and I do not think that I ever suggested she did. At the same time she seems delusional to me by declaring how much she wishes for the new beginning, for better society, and for justice-for-all; but at the same time encourages bullying and beating, profits from drugs, and arbitrarily sentences people to death. And please note: I am not telling that she is insincere - I do believe that she really hopes for Brave New World. The thing is that Sloane is the worst enemy of her own ideals and goals. :-(
As for Reyes "flamboyant" behavior... Well... I somehow agree... But You know... Leia was hardly attracted to Han Solo at first. Perhaps it is the same thing with Reyes: he just grows on You with time... ;-)
Maybe like a fungus. 🙂
There's a datapad on a table in Sloane's old digs talking about Kaetus and the puppet Angara talks about him as well. He's not going anywhere. Sure, you can say he's not being mistreated where I can see but the guy got curb stomped for being Sloane's boyfriend once already - even the lady in "charge" thinks he should be let go but Reyes isn't going to do that. There may be more stuff in the port - I didn't really poke around much in the Reyes as boss branch.
He goes *classic* villain. Threaten/hurt loved ones to draw out the other side, big showdown complete with self-aggrandizing speech, and dirty trick FTW. He's used you, unwittingly, no less than 5 times. The "he can change" rings a little hollow, even his ex warns you. His "but baby I loves you, I want to be good" just seems like another 'I can change him' fallacy to me. I guess it really boils down to that if I'm going to play a role in the classic villain's plan I want to be something other than the dupe or complacent.
I don't think he's satisfied with where he's at either. He wants to be a bigger fish in a bigger pond and I don't see him not just abandoning his MO to do that again. Sloane doesn't strike me as that direct of a threat - I don't see her gunning for trying to run a bigger piece of the show. I don't particularly trust Sloane either... but neither do I trust Morda. I wouldn't swap her out for the guy who lost the slap fight though, if given the chance, for exactly the same reasons I choose Sloane over Reyes. None of them are solid allies. All of them are going to be issues again.
There's a datapad on a table in Sloane's old digs talking about Kaetus and the puppet Angara talks about him as well. He's not going anywhere. Sure, you can say he's not being mistreated where I can see but the guy got curb stomped for being Sloane's boyfriend once already - even the lady in "charge" thinks he should be let go but Reyes isn't going to do that. There may be more stuff in the port - I didn't really poke around much in the Reyes as boss branch.
Yap, You can speak about Kaetus directly with Reyes in Tartarus (slums bar). Reyes believes that Kaetus is a worthy foe, and would be a great asset if he turned to work for the Collective. Ryder can then either tell that it is possible; or that Kaetus will never work with Sloane's murdered (the second option makes Reyes sad).
He's used you, unwittingly, no less than 5 times.
Uh... No, I am quite sure that he has not. E.g. helping with Roekaars cannot be perceived as "using" Ryder - it is a genuine thing (which means that Ryder was just as interested in this as Reyes could ever has been), plus as far as I can tell it was Ryder who started the investigation.
@Kondaru wrote:
There's a datapad on a table in Sloane's old digs talking about Kaetus and the puppet Angara talks about him as well. He's not going anywhere. Sure, you can say he's not being mistreated where I can see but the guy got curb stomped for being Sloane's boyfriend once already - even the lady in "charge" thinks he should be let go but Reyes isn't going to do that. There may be more stuff in the port - I didn't really poke around much in the Reyes as boss branch.
Yap, You can speak about Kaetus directly with Reyes in Tartarus (slums bar). Reyes believes that Kaetus is a worthy foe, and would be a great asset if he turned to work for the Collective. Ryder can then either tell that it is possible; or that Kaetus will never work with Sloane's murdered (the second option makes Reyes sad).
He's used you, unwittingly, no less than 5 times.
Uh... No, I am quite sure that he has not. E.g. helping with Roekaars cannot be perceived as "using" Ryder - it is a genuine thing (which means that Ryder was just as interested in this as Reyes could ever has been), plus as far as I can tell it was Ryder who started the investigation.
Heh. Who'd ever guess the guy you curb stomped, murdered his girlfriend, and jailed (in addition to probably interrogating in creative ways) who is on a hunger strike wouldn't want to be your employee. Poor Reyes. 🙂
So, he really didn't know what the collective knew about the murders and planting bombs was my plan? While I would of put an end to them anyway, this, like freeing the traitor, I still count.
you remember how you were waiting for him to show at the location in question? he was a bit late... i think it's likely that's when he planted those charges, and hence why he was late. there was no fore knowledge i think.
@CasperTheLich wrote:
you remember how you were waiting for him to show at the location in question? he was a bit late... i think it's likely that's when he planted those charges, and hence why he was late. there was no fore knowledge i think.
Or, maybe, he was just using me and not telling me the plan. Again. 😃
The "I have to work the collective angle, I'll see what they know" is why we split up.
that's why you split up, yes. however, once you get to the location, he's still late... very late.
