There, I said it.
I know you(Bioware) want me to pick Reyes, and made her one of the few killable characters in the game, but she's straight with me and the world, has a beautifully complicated ba...
Poison has been in base since beginning.....yup, I consider it in many ways worse than a bomb or gun, because one of the things MOST useful about poison is that it is usually hidden and a way to kill without anyone knowing WHO or WHEN(usually) someone was actually poisoned.
Akksul was going to use bombs to frame the Initiative into destroying Angaran religious zone, ergo: bombs are just as bad. "First murder" proves that guns are also controversial, and can lead to many doubts.
I do understand that poison seems to be devious, and I somehow sympathize with Your perceiving it to be worse than guns and bombs. But I still believe that "how" and "on whom" is more important. Just please consider: young boy scout poisoning a bad Nazi for torturing his mom until death; and the said Nazi shooting praying Jews in the getto with a big machine pistol, and then blowing houses with occupants still inside... :-(
And how about drugs? Do You believe poison to be worse than drugs?
And ahh, poor Reyes, he is fighting such a bad person, it is OK, to torture people, poison them, execute prisoners instead of letting them go or taking them with you, it is ok, to doublecross agreements, and it is ok to use people JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE FIGHTING SOMEONE SOOOO BAD...
Well, Sloane is *not* officially fighting paupers, Angara, and other exiles, but she still tortures them, executes them (please note that if Collective released Outcasts then those Outcasts would in a short while fight against them again; which is NOT the case of Sloane/Outcasts vs. Vehn Terev), drugs own subjects, etc.
And yes: I believe that when a weaker party fights the *oppressor* then it is entitled to employ *some* of the more controversial methods. For me goals are just as important as means.
Please note that the poison can be used e.g. to provide means to Collective agents to commit suicide when caught by Outcasts.
I wasn't actually expecting them to still be allies....I expected them to NOT BE THERE...
Uh... How is it a fault of partisan/guerrilla fighters to be in their secret base? You would prefer all of them to be already caught up by Outcasts and shot in the back front of their heads? :-o
I was more making a point that Reyes is JUST as dirty or more so than Sloane, and can't be trusted any more than She can, and probably even less, since he plays at being your Friend.
OK, but I still can't see Your point. How is he more dirty, and can't be trusted? You decided to act against him, and probably even shot him. How do You expect him to react so You can considered him trustworthy?
But hey, this is my opinion and what I prefer.....
Sure thing. But just one more thing for consider...
You are *assuming* that Reyes will turn out bad. There are no proves he will, while there are many arguments proving he won't... But OK - You *assume*.
How can You be sure that in one week after the game's ends Sloane will not bomb the Nexus and then run a full frontal assault on Eos? After all the fact that she does not allow Outcasts to fight the Collective at first may be very well because she is rallying forces for something... bigger. Has she ever told You that she is not willing to clash with the Initiative? I guess she has never promised You a truce or anything, right? ;-)
Nexus leadership is what created this people tann's incomptence created a lot of situations that frankly if the founder was still alive would most likely never have happend then there is addison's two faced act where she claims to trust you but goes behind your back and makes all sort of terrible plans that backfire helariously can't you blame sloane for sidding with the rebellion against this two idiots
I guess that You forgot to mention that Sloane was one of the Nexus leaders prior to the uprising, and was consciously hiding the truth about the mission from them along with Tann and Addison - which was the very issue that sparked the mutiny. And it was always Spender who was conspiring and stirring people up. Right, he was an assistant to Addison, so I guess she *can* be blamed, but still it was Spender rather than Addison, and definitely not Tann. And please note that Sloane was accepting to Spender as well.
All Tann's decisions were generally correct - his main fault was that he was unable to communicate them in a way that would convince people. Which is expected - he was a mathematician rather than a charismatic leader. In the result he had consciously depended on Addison and Sloane to communicate with others... And well, You surely see where it got him, especially with Sloane. His last fault was to fall into Spender's scam about Krogans (Spender deliberately "promised" them more than he was allowed), and then not being able to overcome own specism/racism.
So yap, Sloane *can't* be blame for siding with the rebellion against... herself? ;-)
Nexus leadership is what created this people tann's incomptence created a lot of situations that frankly if the founder was still alive would most likely never have happend then there is addison's two faced act where she claims to trust you but goes behind your back and makes all sort of terrible plans that backfire helariously can't you blame sloane for sidding with the rebellion against this two idiots
I guess that You forgot to mention that Sloane was one of the Nexus leaders prior to the uprising, and was consciously hiding the truth about the mission from them along with Tann and Addison - which was the very issue that sparked the mutiny. And it was always Spender who was conspiring and stirring people up. Right, he was an assistant to Addison, so I guess she *can* be blamed, but still it was Spender rather than Addison, and definitely not Tann. And please note that Sloane was accepting to Spender as well.
All Tann's decisions were generally correct - his main fault was that he was unable to communicate them in a way that would convince people. Which is expected - he was a mathematician rather than a charismatic leader. In the result he had consciously depended on Addison and Sloane to communicate with others... And well, You surely see where it got him, especially with Sloane. His last fault was to fall into Spender's scam about Krogans (Spender deliberately "promised" them more than he was allowed), and then not being able to overcome own specism/racism.
So yap, Sloane *can't* be blame for siding with the rebellion against... herself? ;-)
Sloane was the only one talking to people outside the leadership AT ALL, and she did follow orders (for once, and against her better judgement) while mourning her best friend, who she never got to say good bye to. When things went wrong she was the only one who actually tried to fix it. And Sloane hates Spender and thinks he is untrustworthy.
Anyway, Tann is maybe 50% right in his decision-making up to the uprising
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