latest Andromeda news
In case you heard about the news about MEA canning the DLC, it's apparently a hoax. More info in the vid below... Good that Bioware brass finally said something. It's about time! https://www.yout...
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My take on this is that those that say there will be no DLC are forgetting how cheap these are to make. You have all the base figures, weapons and so on. So you only need a storyline a few new characters and worlds. That is basically that.
So what if you can only sell a million copies at a tenner each that's still a lot of money if development cost is only 2-3 mill. Every accountant in the world would say that is a no brainer.
@jpkarlsen wrote:My take on this is that those that say there will be no DLC are forgetting how cheap these are to make. You have all the base figures, weapons and so on. So you only need a storyline a few new characters and worlds. That is basically that.
So what if you can only sell a million copies at a tenner each that's still a lot of money if development cost is only 2-3 mill. Every accountant in the world would say that is a no brainer.
And because many of us are aware of this from the start, speculations about ME:A being abondend started in the first place...
Because it is no big deal to release non-story DLCs and much of the production costs for story DLCs are already in the main game. So what you point out is exactly the reason why we all are suspicious.
There is no reason to be silent about ME:A unless there is a decision to be made for whatever reason. And that decision includes downgrading support, delay in favour of some other project or even abandoning it at all. Hopefully that decision is still pending and will result in full support to strengthen the IP for the future!
But fact is there is no commitment from Bioware or EA for much too long time.
Interpreting this as a good omen is loss of reality.
Hope is the driving force to say otherwise ...
@Phoenixflieger wrote:
@jpkarlsen wrote:My take on this is that those that say there will be no DLC are forgetting how cheap these are to make. You have all the base figures, weapons and so on. So you only need a storyline a few new characters and worlds. That is basically that.
So what if you can only sell a million copies at a tenner each that's still a lot of money if development cost is only 2-3 mill. Every accountant in the world would say that is a no brainer.
And because many of us are aware of this from the start, speculations about ME:A being abondend started in the first place...
Because it is no big deal to release non-story DLCs and much of the production costs for story DLCs are already in the main game. So what you point out is exactly the reason why we all are suspicious.There is no reason to be silent about ME:A unless there is a decision to be made for whatever reason. And that decision includes downgrading support, delay in favour of some other project or even abandoning it at all. Hopefully that decision is still pending and will result in full support to strengthen the IP for the future!
But fact is there is no commitment from Bioware or EA for much too long time.
Interpreting this as a good omen is loss of reality.Hope is the driving force to say otherwise ...
Well, someone over on the unofficial BSN bioware board noted that they probably can't say anything due to SEC and other financial regulations. IOW, it could cost EA/Bioware a crapton of money if someone "slightly official" blabs about this blockbuster DLC that's going to make tons of money.
Looking at how quickly EA/Bioware came out and slammed the fake company for the facebook article hoax, I am just wondering if Kotaku's article is incorrect and kotaku's article is way more widely circulated than that hoax, why is EA/Bioware management not saying anything?
@VladVonCastein wrote:Looking at how quickly EA/Bioware came out and slammed the fake company for the facebook article hoax, I am just wondering if Kotaku's article is incorrect and kotaku's article is way more widely circulated than that hoax, why is EA/Bioware management not saying anything?
Because he's hiding behind the fig-leaf known as 'reporting'. He isn't saying that he knows the DLC isn't coming out, he's saying that "three guys" told him that and it "fits what he believes".
Totally CYA.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
Looking at how quickly EA/Bioware came out and slammed the fake company for the facebook article hoax, I am just wondering if Kotaku's article is incorrect and kotaku's article is way more widely circulated than that hoax, why is EA/Bioware management not saying anything?
They said on Twitter that there are certain things a public company can't disclose.
@VladVonCastein wrote:Looking at how quickly EA/Bioware came out and slammed the fake company for the facebook article hoax, I am just wondering if Kotaku's article is incorrect and kotaku's article is way more widely circulated than that hoax, why is EA/Bioware management not saying anything?
Yeah, they probably didn't even want to react to this but this was such a blatant hoax that they had no choice. And even then, they just put a couple of comments on twitter. Nothing here on the forums or the main website.
EAWare just have a tendency to stay silent for months until they are ready. It's typical really for big companies. Their customer focus tends to lie around their production process. Of course they make mistakes there but when it comes to the more regular interactions with customers (call it aftersales or customer service), they have no customer focus at all. They just see it as a cost centre instead of an investment in long term relations.
It just seems to me that they haven't quite understood that they can create much stronger relations with their customers as well as increase the customer base because of word-of-mouth advertisement. It's worth to invest in that but they don't. Only when they're more or less forced to.
Nobody will be surprised when people say that the products you sell by themselves are no longer enough and you need good customer support to distinguish yourself as a company. Now BioWare has had the luxury position of having a bit of a monopoly in what they do. There is no direct competition for Mass Effect or Dragon Age for example because any other Sci-Fi or Fantasy RPG doesn't have what they do with story, companions, romance, etc. They made one MMO and it's the only Star Wars MMO on the market which still has those trade mark elements that BW does.
I mean as much as I hate what they've done to SWTOR in recent years, I don't have an alternative for it.
So, what does this all mean? It means that BioWare can get away with a lot because they do not have to fear people running away to the competition as much and it means that they mostly can choose when to communicate and focus on their needs rather than the customer needs. Because in the end...angry or not, we'll come back to them when the next game or dlc comes out. Of course some will break away and stay away but a lot of people will still end up giving it another go. There still is an appeal in what they offer and nobody else offers this.
I like their games myself but where last year I was increasing spending on BioWare my response to all this has been to stop spending and now find ways of enjoying the BioWare games while spending the bare minimum amount of money on them. I stopped being a fan and became a customer. And this customer will only invest the bare minimum because from my point of view that's what they are investing in their customer relations. So it makes it a more balanced relation.
You just totally ignored the information that Bioware and EA _CAN'T_ talk about certain things because they are a publically traded company and it can affect their stock. In your mind, it's because they are uncaring and don't want to, not that they can not.
@arthurh3535 wrote:You just totally ignored the information that Bioware and EA _CAN'T_ talk about certain things because they are a publically traded company and it can affect their stock. In your mind, it's because they are uncaring and don't want to, not that they can not.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
But ok, if there really are things they cannot divulge, which is definitely possible, that doesn't mean that they should just not talk at all about anything. They're really just not very involved in their own community as far as I'm concerned.
I think there are two other possibilities why BioWare hasn't officially commented on this yet.
1. BioWare has a policy not to respond to rumors. (They stated this on their old forum.)
2. BioWare usually announces DLC a few days before release.
I think if BioWare started commenting on rumors, they would be more easily baited in the future to disclose things they're not ready to share yet.
Based on release dates of past BioWare titles, DLC should be announced sometime this month or possibly August. If they haven't announced anything by September, I think it's a safe bet it's not coming.
I mean, if they teased the quarians up until a month ago with no DLC or sequels planned it just doesn't make any sense.
- I just hope they actually rap things up with story dlc, and not books. I hate having to read about events I could have just as easily done myself.
@VladVonCastein wrote:Looking at how quickly EA/Bioware came out and slammed the fake company for the facebook article hoax, I am just wondering if Kotaku's article is incorrect and kotaku's article is way more widely circulated than that hoax, why is EA/Bioware management not saying anything?
Kotaku is a media report, whereas the Facebook hoax appeared to be a company claiming an affiliation with BioWare. There was a professional obligation to answer that false claim.
In this type of situation, the 'media' will sort it's self out when the truth is revealed, months or years from now. It doesn't really matter if the Kotaku article is true or not. We don't have any official BioWare announcement or hype about a DLC - so there isn't one.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
Looking at how quickly EA/Bioware came out and slammed the fake company for the facebook article hoax, I am just wondering if Kotaku's article is incorrect and kotaku's article is way more widely circulated than that hoax, why is EA/Bioware management not saying anything?
Considering the track record lately of "The Media"....recent US Presidential election....Brexit....the weather forecasts for about the last 30 years running...why should anyone blindly take their word for anything?? Read them for insight...but always figure they have an agenda too, and while they SHOULD be about truth, more often than not, it is about money or power, and an article about how a popular game franchise is in trouble WILL sell more copies/get more views than one saying while EA mucked up MEA, but they are working on fixing it and expect more money making DLC in the future...
Yeah, they may be right, they may be wrong, but they are getting paid to pontificate about it, and the "truth" is subjective and easily corrected by a well, "EA changed it's mind and they ARE releasing a new DLC," if it does happen...
Another one that I just watched last evening.
@VladVonCastein wrote:Another one that I just watched last evening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7_tymEuT2k
Just more 'reporters' that can't actually research or verify their own story, so they parrot (loudly) Kotaku's rumor.
@arthurh3535 wrote:
@VladVonCastein wrote:Another one that I just watched last evening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7_tymEuT2k
Just more 'reporters' that can't actually research or verify their own story, so they parrot (loudly) Kotaku's rumor.
Actually, the YouTuber who posted that video clearly outlines BioWare's track record on releasing DLC content for DragonAge and Mass Effect. He makes the point that BioWare does not promote DLC until it's very close to release. He contrasts those facts with the Kotaku article and his own opinion, so I think you're being too harsh.
I wanted to clarify that I was not bashing credible media or journalism in my previous post, merely pointing out that BioWare is the final word. Unfortunately, someone in this thread has made bias political comments on the profession.
So, they just teased a batarian in MP. WHAT IF THE QUARIANS ARE RELEASED AS MP CHARACTERS? Oh god please don't do this to me.
@Fred_vdp wrote:I think there are two other possibilities why BioWare hasn't officially commented on this yet.
1. BioWare has a policy not to respond to rumors. (They stated this on their old forum.)
2. BioWare usually announces DLC a few days before release.
I think if BioWare started commenting on rumors, they would be more easily baited in the future to disclose things they're not ready to share yet.
Based on release dates of past BioWare titles, DLC should be announced sometime this month or possibly August. If they haven't announced anything by September, I think it's a safe bet it's not coming.
I think Early 2018 would be the point at which I will abandon hope for any DLC. It's entirely possible that BioWare is waiting on the number of units sold to reach a certain level before selling DLC. Considering that the game did not sell as well as expected and the reviews cast a cloud on the game - things need time to settle.
Lower prices on the game as it ages will get it in more hands and increase the potential success of DLC sales.
No matter what any non-official BioWare source says I will not believe that this game was not intended to have DLC content (or a sequel). Part of me believes that some DLC is already mostly finished and awaiting a launch window related to game sales.
There are too many loose ends.
When I started this thread, I wanted to share some of the latest news on ME Andromeda, since there are few official statements from BW/EA. What I watch and find out from youtube, I share here. Objectively I have posted vids from different youtube channels each with their own views. We all have a head on our shoulders and It's up to all of us what we wish to believe and by all means objectively share our views. Some have appreciated this and guess they are the ones this thread is for.
If any of you feel strongly about the accuracy of the vids, instead of screaming "Fake News" here, feel free to comment directly on the vid on youtube, tell the channel/reporter what you truly think.
@TKMcClone wrote:I think Early 2018 would be the point at which I will abandon hope for any DLC. It's entirely possible that BioWare is waiting on the number of units sold to reach a certain level before selling DLC. Considering that the game did not sell as well as expected and the reviews cast a cloud on the game - things need time to settle.
Well, if you put a little research into this you will find that the game did not sell bad at all. Most of the gaming media reviews wasn't bad either, not enthusiastic but also not really bad.
For Jason Schreier (If you guys would speak German you would know why this is funny. 😉 ) and Kotaku, the fact that he is trolling members of the new BSN on twitter because they are critical towards him doesn't add credibility to his claims.
In the end all this is pointless.
BW will make an announcement about the future of Mass Effect and Andromeda at some point. Everything else is just speculation without any factual value.
Just found this, it explains how the batarians got to Andromeda:
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6lmoko/new_mea_spoilers_how_the_batarians_got_to/
Well it could be worse 🙂 Like, you know, they could've arrived on the Quarian ark or something ^^
(don't misunderstand, still hoping!)
@Fr0st223 wrote:Just found this, it explains how the batarians got to Andromeda:
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6lmoko/new_mea_spoilers_how_the_batarians_got_to/
Now that's lame....but it's mp side of things, so who cares if the lore is bonkers.
Personally I couldn't care less about MP.
@Vellu78 wrote:
@Fr0st223 wrote:Just found this, it explains how the batarians got to Andromeda:
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6lmoko/new_mea_spoilers_how_the_batarians_got_to/
Now that's lame....but it's mp side of things, so who cares if the lore is bonkers.
yup. Shepard clone incoming....
