Mass Effect Andromeda 2 is a must
I'm a newbie to mass effect. To be honest I only picked up Mass Effect Andromeda on a whim when I was buying two other games, And Its one of the best decisions I've ever made! I think its a great ...
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gngmelcalaniye wrote:
EA forced Bioware to release the game in 2017 while the devs asked for at least one more year for development.
Any links to confirm that?
It is a common thing to blame EA for mistakes the developer makes this days, and it sounds to me like the claim that EA forced Frostbite on Andromeda, something that was just recently debunked.
For Andromeda, I pretty much like the game. As many others I know do as well and it still has many fans.
The game has fallen victim to a typical Internet hate train that had many reasons, and many of these reasons had nothing to do with the actual game.
The most important thing now is what they do with the franchise in the future.
https://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428 Long read but worthwhile.
@holger1405 wrote:It is a common thing to blame EA for mistakes the developer makes this days, and it sounds to me like the claim that EA forced Frostbite on Andromeda, something that was just recently debunked.
Now, here's the issue I have with this statement. "Blaming" EA was one way for fans to vent out and keep their hopes up for BioWare. What you're saying is that EA didn't have anything to do with it and BioWare shot itself in the foot. So, the rumors that BioWare is on a downward trend in terms of management and bad decisions should also be true. in the deep down I kinda wished it was EA's fault so BioWare could pull what Bungie did with Activision and parted ways.
Oh well... Maybe, just maybe, some time in the future some capable people revisit this franchise and make it great again. The base is there, it's not solid but it can be. A lot of plot "holes" to be answered, a lot of place to grow, a lot of potential for story development
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Don't forget that the main antagonist in ME:A wasn't even high up on the Kett hierarchy.
I guess time will tell.
Both EA and bioware were to blame, but I'd say EA was more so. The amount of mistakes made during development was insane.
There's a lot of story left in MEA to explore, it can easily be good. They just have to do it right for the next game.
gngmelcalaniye wrote:
Now, here's the issue I have with this statement. "Blaming" EA was one way for fans to vent out and keep their hopes up for BioWare. What you're saying is that EA didn't have anything to do with it and BioWare shot itself in the foot. So, the rumors that BioWare is on a downward trend in terms of management and bad decisions should also be true. in the deep down I kinda wished it was EA's fault so BioWare could pull what Bungie did with Activision and parted ways.
Oh well... Maybe, just maybe, some time in the future some capable people revisit this franchise and make it great again. The base is there, it's not solid but it can be. A lot of plot "holes" to be answered, a lot of place to grow, a lot of potential for story development
I guess time will tell.See, that is my point, I don't "blame" Bioware for anything. (except giving up on the game after the hate-train.)
In my opinion Andromeda is a good game, not as great as the Trilogy, but still a good game.It is nothing wrong to point out problems or to offer constructive criticism, what happened after the game was released was nothing of that.
The focus on some bad facial animations that started the whole thing is imho nothing but superficial and had nothing to do with gameplay, and the question if this is a good game or not. (Something that is purely subjective anyway.)
Some other reasons for the hate-train where more political than game related.
This does not mean that I think Bioware is not to criticize for decision they maid during development, the certainly did made big mistakes, and you have to criticize Bioware for it, only then they will have to deal with their mistakes. If they have EA as a scapegoat the could hide behind it.
But there is imho simply no reason for doom and gloom regarding Bioware. They have made more good decisions than bad over the years, and the perception of Andromeda as a "very bad game" is in my opinion more due to the bad publicity after the release than to the game itself.
@holger1405 wrote:But there is imho simply no reason for doom and gloom regarding Bioware. They have made more good decisions than bad over the years
Correct me if I'm wrong but all of BioWares latest projects (namely "Star Wars: The Old Republic", "Mass Effect Andromeda" and "Anthem") where huge flops...! They even messed up the ending of the "great" Mass Effect trilogy. So, what "good decisions" are you referring to?
- @gngmelcalaniye
Baldur's Gate
Dragon Age Origins
Dragon Age Inquisition
Knights of the Old Republic
Jade Empire.
They've made some fantastic games, true the end of ME3 is a kick in the *, but at least they gave us something FREE to correct it. Plus the DLC for ME3 more than made up for it. Citadel is probably the best DLC for ME they've made.
Don't forget that EA likes almost full control too. So, whatever bad decisions went on with ME3, they need to take their fair share of the blame. Seems unfair to lump Bioware with all of it.
Same thing happend with Visceral and Dead Space. They forced them to put MP on it, which unsurprising failed and dragged the quality of SP down with it, determined to not be proved wrong, they added a pointless co-op on to DS3 and killed that too. Blaming Visceral for everything, then disbanded them. Thank yourself lucky Bioware are still here after Anthem (which is obvious it'd be a flop from the moment it was announced).
