M/M romance bias

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@Alexnssilents wrote:
not to sound like an * but I am sounding like an * I guess...but it's a fictional game...if you play this game solely to be able to bang some dude or some alien dude, you may want to recheck your priorities there, youhoo.

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Guess I need to check mine then!!

As much as I also enjoy the story I only play bioware rpgs for the most part now because they also include romances when most others do not. There is the witcher 3 but playing a guy never much appealed to me.

In anycase, to the OP compared to Dorian's romance in DA:I,  the m/m romances are seriously lacking. Im assuming Reyes was pretty much the same for both sis and bro Ryder, it was definitely a lacking romance. There is notes there that they intend to improve the male romance options for Scott over the next couple of months.

Sadly nothing on improving the male romance options for Sara Ryder tho, which were also seriously lacking - yeah we got Jaal and his romance is good but its the only one (aliens aren't really my thing). Really though, you aren’t totally alone. The Fem Protag x Male romances are usually not much better in the ME games. One guy who dies, one guy who cheats leaving us with 2 viable options leading into and through  ME3 (garrus and kaidan) our only plus there was not having to wait till ME3 to even get a romance really, and the fact we got one of each (one human, one alien)

This time we get Jaal, Reyes and Liam. Jaal is decent, Reyes and Liam's romances really not.

So yeah M/M has it the worse across the ME games for romances with F/M (F being the female protag) aren't all that far behind.

I totally agree, they really should pick up their game when it comes to these romances ☹️ at least one good human option and one good alien option. Not 2 bad human options (m/m) and one good alien option, 2 bad human options  (f/m), that andromeda has.

Simplest explanation for why?

There's a double-standard. Girl-on-girl is hot. Guy-on-guy is not.

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@FireStorm1040 wrote:

The problem isn't the number of m/m romance options, it's something much worse, the lack of m/m content. For starters there is no squadmate avaliable for m/m romance (unlike ME3 and DAI), then there is way less cutscenes in the m/m romace compared to the f/m romance (something like half the cutscenes), and with that a very limited number of dialogue lines. All of which makes MEA a big step back on m/m romance when compared with other games from BioWare. I'm not saying that I will stop playing the game, but it would be really good if they adressed those problems with a patch or DLC.

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Theres no romance dialogue off the ship anyhow..

Not out in the field, for any of the romances. (At least not Jaal or Liam)

Only when specifically asked to meet somewhere - which they could have easy done with Suvi or Gil, or even Reyes. And on the ship. So you didn't miss out there.

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@shaolung666 wrote:
I've found that this game is repleat with homosexual relationships and references. Far more than any past Bioware game. Way more than I encounter in real life. It's almost to the point where it feels forced.

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Just because you don't know someones gay irl doesn't mean they aren't around. Lots who still hide it out of fear. Besides there is only 2 in this game. Thats hardly plenty when there is far more HET romances for Scott and F/F romances for Sara than there is M/M romances.

In ME 1 - 3 there was 2 m/m romances out of the entire trilogy and they were both only in ME3. Yet there was more f/f romances for Femshep the  there was F/M romances for her. M/M is certainly not the issue with these games. Esp not in the more open era they are set in.

(Edit) what there is, is too much catering to male players overall. Tons of Male Protag x Females romances and f/f romances for the guys who play the fem protags and want dont wanna romance a guy, so much so that the others get left out snd sub par romances.

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@shaolung666 wrote:
I've found that this game is repleat with homosexual relationships and references. Far more than any past Bioware game. Way more than I encounter in real life. It's almost to the point where it feels forced.

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The forced feeling is mainly caused by lack of undestanding on how to write it, it doesn't feel natural. That's my perception. I have many gay friends, either man and woman, and their relationship looks normal, past the fact they are a pair, and you start stopping diving them by physical gender. When I tested seeing Shepard and Kaidan having a gay relationship in ME3, it was a bit strange. Their first conversation, when they are having a steak at the Citadel, that's the least strange coversation, because it feels genuine, expression. of feelings from one man to another. After that, they get a bit like ... snide, too malicious, strange as they weren't yet too deep in their relationship.

I chose 1 or 2 flirting with Gill and immediately thought it was too fast into 'obcenity', without even a startling reaction. It felt like both men knew what they were. I'm not sure if that's the effect they wanted to pass, but it might be so. From my point of view, as man, it felt unnatural, but it might not be the case in a real conversation between gay men who already know each other slightly.

They must work on all relationships, love-based, passion-based, friendship-based, given depths, details, small talk, reaction time-events (sometimes your crew mate will passe by you, and you just slaps one's buttocks in a funny style). Things like that, as the details of your small talks, conversations and behavior would allow and trigger convincing branches.

But that's just part of the game.