New patch?

@Ri-Go_HUN7 

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Ri-Go_HUN7 wrote:

Yeah, you are right. Sometimes (including me) fans are way too harsh.

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Thanks for that.

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Ri-Go_HUN7 wrote:

I think Andromeda got way too much harsh criticisms. But LE is the opposite. It's not a bad game, but almost every one is just praise it, critics and players too. And if you want to speak about the game's bad side, then you will be downvoted by the community, without hesitation.

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I really like Andromeda as well, it is a way better game than it got credit fore imho.
But as a matter of fact the "community" effectively killed that game.

So I am not saying that it is fair that you got downvoted if you address the flaws of the MELE in a civil manner, but it might be that the overblown negativisms about Bioware games in the last years, since the ME3 endings debate really, create some kind of backslash now, and I for once welcome that, because I like to have some more Bioware games in the future.  😉
Don't get me wrong, I don't say Bioware is doing or did anything right, they made critical and sometimes stupid mistakes, but there are two sides of the coin here.

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Ri-Go_HUN7 wrote:

Harsh criticisms or complete praise with silence about the problems. None of these a good community responce.

I just want a good quality version of the game that we can preserve for the future. I don't see this in the LE in current state, so that's why I campaign about bugs a little too much.

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I agree, and it is nothing wrong with pointing out existing problems in the MELE, in the contrary.
I am just taking aback by the way and manner sometimes.

@holger1405Yeah, I think the community killed Andromeda too. It's really sad. That game deserves a second chance. I really loved the exploration with the Nomad, the combat system, the beautiful worlds with many side quest, the crafting system, the ME1 like RPG roots and the level up and character development with the profile system. The main story is mediocre, but with some great side quest, it's not a bad story.

I want more BioWare game too. I loved Kotor, Mass Effect 1-3 and Andromeda (and Dragon Age: Origins, but I never finished it, because a technical problem). BUT... and it's a really big but, if they can deliver the original BioWare quality. If we will get some low quality BioWare titles in the future, then I do not want new BioWare games. I want the next Mass Effect game, if they can make it good, but it's only then. I don't want a hollow franchise.

I love Mass Effect more, than any other Sci-Fi, or any other type of franchise, so that's why I want outstanding quality. I think it's a good thing, if BioWare get some positive energy, but we can't think in only extremes, like a thing can be only good, or only bad, this is not the correct way, I think. The critique killed the not so bad Andromeda, the fan's love lifted the not so outstandig Legendary Edition. LE still can be outstanding after a some new updates, but if the people do not care about the problems, LE will be never fixed. As I said, I want a great quality version what can be preserved for the future.

I loved and criticised Andromeda, when it needed. I do this also with LE. I think already got enough appreciation, so, now it's the time for fixing things. I just want a really good, classic BioWare quality game. I hope everyone else too, so, every one, do not fear to criticise and appreciate things at the same time. I love the ME1's LE version, I love the ME2-3:LE's new textures and other graphic and performance upgrades, but I think now we have more disadvantages than advantages in ME2-3:LE, if we compare in-depth them with the originals. That's my opinion.

@Ri-Go_HUN7 

I think the same about Andromeda, and I like it for the same reasons.

I also think that Bioware could have done more with the MELE, and I hope they will fix at least some of the remaining bugs.
But the times are not easy, and that is true for developers in a special way, so that might be one of the reasons for that.

Constructive criticism is absolutely necessary, no doubt about it, I've just seen it overridden by toxicity in recent years, and I've been on this forum for 8 years.

So I would encourage everyone to report problems and bugs, and give feedback about this game, but please think about that there are human beings on the receiving side as well, and how you would react if some of this reports would be directed at you.

Constructive criticism is always welcome. Calling someone names or questioning their professionalism is not beneficial.

Too many bad experiences at a restaurant and you'll eventually go find a new one. That's where I'm at. So long. Good luck with the next release. The Franchise doesn't deserve Andromeda and this half baked remaster as its legacy.

Is it to much for Bioware/EA to just tell us IF they are going to fix there rushed out mess? 

@holger1405 

I agree with certain points, some people just go way overboard. I won't deny that I can also get worked up over certain things regarding MELE.

But since you mentioned you've been here for eight years - I'd also like to point out that MELE's state is not BioWare's only misstep. It feels like they have been in decline ever since Dragon Age 2, and that was ten years ago. Yes, I even think that ME3 had elements that really did not fit the trilogy - for example, heavily relying on B-movie tropes, like Kai Leng's every stupid scene (how insultingly moronic Thane is in his scene against him, or how annoyingly useless Shepard is in every cutscene featuring him... and just what an utterly boring villain he is!), or the forced tension between the Virmire survivor and Shepard that magically ceases to exist once aboard the Normandy etc... Or you know, throwing in some randomass kid to personalise Shepard's PTSD? Nobody cares, the player has no connection to him, nor does Shepard. It's some forced BS, and it's neglecting Shepard's actual personal losses. And these are actual problems with story and character writing, which they are supposed to be known for.

DA Inquisition felt like a high point story-wise (well, with Trespasser, that is), and also had good character moments, but it is no secret that it had a really troubled development, and it's also a painfully empty game, with fetch quests festering all over the gigantic landscapes.

Their latest major games were failures, and toxicity aside, deservedly so. They are games that you can "have some fun with" at their best, and extremely boring at their worst.

Now, what I feel like is common through all of these is the feeling of technical inexpertise. Even DA: O had severe memory leak problems that never got fixed. They have been using the same animations for god knows how many years, and they did NOT feel natural even at release. Facial animations were never any good, it was just at MEA when people really got mad about it. They are not even trying to make human hair look anything like human hair. They went with the "let's just slap an Avenger in every character's hand" approach even in ME3. Etc etc lots of these smaller or bigger issues that really have a negative effect on player immersion.

And now that they had a second chance to polish these out, what did they do? Slightly pumped up the textures. The inexpertise is not the worst part in itself (though I'd say they desperately need to hire new talent), but the clear signs of "yea we did not even try" are not acceptable.