No DLC for Andromeda?

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@V4rdyn wrote:

I'm not concerned about the DLCs. Not unless they put it out officially, in our face, that "we're done."

"--you're keeping the lights on. You have my vote."

They seem committed to put it right.

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Every other ME game they clearly stated there would be dlc and support for 12 months.

The fact that they haven't said this for andromeda but have said no dlc is planned, speaks volumes.

Mass Effects done. This is it. There is a skeleton crew working on the last patches and thats all. Everyone else has been moved to the new IP. This wasn't just a small downsize as is normal for post game release - this is a massive its all over downsizing. EA is systematically killing off bioware. This is what they do. Take over companies, make money in them then ditch them.

Bubye ME ☹️ you were awesome while you lasted. I won't be touching the new IP. Not after they ditched MEA as a half finished, incomplete story / game. They get away with it once they'll keep doing it.

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I agree, this game just came out a couple months ago and is already abandoned. I'll be damned if I consider another EA or Bioware title in the future knowing they just abandon games if they don't get the exact reaction they want upon game release.

I really like Andromeda, I think they did a good job overall, but the fact that they just totally gave up does not encourage me to consider future titles by this studio.

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@DarthLlama wrote:

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@V4rdyn wrote:

I'm not concerned about the DLCs. Not unless they put it out officially, in our face, that "we're done."

"--you're keeping the lights on. You have my vote."

They seem committed to put it right.

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Every other ME game they clearly stated there would be dlc and support for 12 months.

The fact that they haven't said this for andromeda but have said no dlc is planned, speaks volumes.

Mass Effects done. This is it. There is a skeleton crew working on the last patches and thats all. Everyone else has been moved to the new IP. This wasn't just a small downsize as is normal for post game release - this is a massive its all over downsizing. EA is systematically killing off bioware. This is what they do. Take over companies, make money in them then ditch them.

Bubye ME ☹️ you were awesome while you lasted. I won't be touching the new IP. Not after they ditched MEA as a half finished, incomplete story / game. They get away with it once they'll keep doing it.

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I agree, this game just came out a couple months ago and is already abandoned. I'll be damned if I consider another EA or Bioware title in the future knowing they just abandon games if they don't get the exact reaction they want upon game release.

I really like Andromeda, I think they did a good job overall, but the fact that they just totally gave up does not encourage me to consider future titles by this studio.

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Same ☹️.

It very much feels like a they have taken all our money and ran away with it this time, they waited until its too late to get a refund to tell us. So now we are left with an incomplete story and all we can look forward to is it being a slightly more polished incomplete story.

Im done with EA. No more money from me.

Gunna cancel my SWTOR subscription before it comes up again. They aren't getting another cent from me until they rectify this. They need to put some of our $$ back into Andromeda and at least finish off the Quarrian Ark and Mum cure storyline for Ryder. No story finish, no more money from me. Ever. Was never that into dragon age anyhow so wont bother me not buying the next one. As for the new IP, can't miss what Ive never played but I can say no to risking this kind of thing happening to me again. I love ME. I don't want to risk going through it again with something else.

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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People thought the same about deus ex. Look how that turned out. The DLC was a slap to the face, microtransactions tacked on at the last second, a minigame that no one wanted, and a half finished story. 

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@Arsenic_Touch wrote:

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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People thought the same about deus ex. Look how that turned out. The DLC was a slap to the face, microtransactions tacked on at the last second, a minigame that no one wanted, and a half finished story. 

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Thats what MEA is getting right now. Minus the DLC that we do want. MP is going to be worked on so they can keep sucking more money from the game for as long as possible, while the rest is ditched save a couple of patches.

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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These things never made sense in our point of view, only in the other end of the bargain. Worst of it all, it's something that's a tendency. You remember you might have read around here people saying that it's normal, that we shouldn't bother with bugs and stop whining because it's normal releasing something buggy or lacking.

It escalates. That's why I always pointed out that the moment we accept and be conformist by leveling things to the lowest of standards, it's the time things like this will grow even more common. They sell you something that doesn't exist and yet, they request our patient, 'don't expected low scores'. That's sadly laughable.

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@PandaTar wrote:

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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These things never made sense in our point of view, only in the other end of the bargain. Worst of it all, it's something that's a tendency. You remember you might have read around here people saying that it's normal, that we shouldn't bother with bugs and stop whining because it's normal releasing something buggy or lacking.

It escalates. That's why I always pointed out that the moment we accept and be conformist by leveling things to the lowest of standards, it's the time things like this will grow even more common. They sell you something that doesn't exist and yet, they request our patient, 'don't expected low scores'. That's sadly laughable.

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Well I was impressed with the story and the characters in Andromeda from the get go, not the bugs, i just expected those would be fixed. I also expected what the other ME games got, 12 months of support while also working on dlcs etc.

What I wont accept is the game being dropped and unfinished.

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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These things never made sense in our point of view, only in the other end of the bargain. Worst of it all, it's something that's a tendency. You remember you might have read around here people saying that it's normal, that we shouldn't bother with bugs and stop whining because it's normal releasing something buggy or lacking.

It escalates. That's why I always pointed out that the moment we accept and be conformist by leveling things to the lowest of standards, it's the time things like this will grow even more common. They sell you something that doesn't exist and yet, they request our patient, 'don't expected low scores'. That's sadly laughable.

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Well I was impressed with the story and the characters in Andromeda from the get go, not the bugs, i just expected those would be fixed. I also expected what the other ME games got, 12 months of support while also working on dlcs etc.

What I wont accept is the game being dropped and unfinished.

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Depends.

If the original plan was to farm out animation, or to answer all the plotlines with DLC and then move on to a different story, or to do off the wall things with the DLC - there are any number of things they could of been planning to do that a regrouping and rethinking may be a good idea. Good stuff takes time to write and produce. Putting out a flurry of material as DLC, if it was just more of the initial release, would of been a bad idea.

I've even said, more than once, if I had to buy DLC to finish all these plotlines I'd be cranky. A second game is years down the road regardless. Part of what they're doing now is spending more time working on the original game than they planned for.

I'll wait and see. I'll also take patches that fix some things now instead of waiting for a patch that fixes everything later... and I am not going to believe no DLC until they actually say "No DLC".

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@jpcerutti1 wrote:

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

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@Nykara360 wrote:

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@PandaTar wrote:

That's how it happened with Might & Magic franchise.  ☹️ Cash grab, then dump the rest.

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Makes zero sense when they have a franchise so widely loved that they could keep making money off by making more games though 

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These things never made sense in our point of view, only in the other end of the bargain. Worst of it all, it's something that's a tendency. You remember you might have read around here people saying that it's normal, that we shouldn't bother with bugs and stop whining because it's normal releasing something buggy or lacking.

It escalates. That's why I always pointed out that the moment we accept and be conformist by leveling things to the lowest of standards, it's the time things like this will grow even more common. They sell you something that doesn't exist and yet, they request our patient, 'don't expected low scores'. That's sadly laughable.

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Well I was impressed with the story and the characters in Andromeda from the get go, not the bugs, i just expected those would be fixed. I also expected what the other ME games got, 12 months of support while also working on dlcs etc.

What I wont accept is the game being dropped and unfinished.

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Depends.

If the original plan was to farm out animation, or to answer all the plotlines with DLC and then move on to a different story, or to do off the wall things with the DLC - there are any number of things they could of been planning to do that a regrouping and rethinking may be a good idea. Good stuff takes time to write and produce. Putting out a flurry of material as DLC, if it was just more of the initial release, would of been a bad idea.

I've even said, more than once, if I had to buy DLC to finish all these plotlines I'd be cranky. A second game is years down the road regardless.

I'll wait and see. I'll also take patches that fix some things now instead of waiting for a patch that fixes everything later... and I am not going to believe no DLC until they actually say "No DLC".

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They said there is no planned dlc - almost the same thing. They are saying they didn't plan to do any dlc. Its just a slight wording difference because if they said it before release less ppl may have purchased the game. So they worded it open ended when it wasn't.