Re: A thought about the scourge *possible spoilers*

well my thought went around the idea that the scourge seems to target rem-cores, and likely other kinds of rem-tech. so activating the vaults would likely draw in the scourge, and bringing back the entire network is like ringing the dinner bell, and adding giant searchlights, and maybe add some fireworks somewhere in there too.

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even before we knew what was going on, my first thought was something like... ok, in under 600 years this stuff has all but engulfed this super cluster, and the vault network seems to run across it too. a terraforming system on multiple planets, seems to stretch cluster wide, and seems to have an immediate effect planet wide. and there's this junk all over the cluster, connections?

true, now we know what actually happened, but before then... lots of foreboding, deep dark feeling type stuff.

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You know that resetting them is going to poke the sleeping mystery bear and wake it up. A bear that already ate the Jaardan and just went somewhere to sleep it off.  They will not be happy to have what was done undone.

I wonder if you're going to end up with some sort of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" alliance with the Kett against them. With the beginnings of being able to work deals with them in their interest, and them keeping their end of those deals, it makes me wonder. If the Kett were simple villians those shouldn't be there. It would be like letting you cut a couple deals with the indoctrinated in ME1.

Since it is future unavoidable plot I didn't worry about it too much... and am just waiting for the "WHO's been sleeping in my bed?"

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@jpcerutti1 wrote:

You know that resetting them is going to poke the sleeping mystery bear and wake it up. A bear that already ate the Jaardan and just went somewhere to sleep it off.  They will not be happy to have what was done undone.

I wonder if you're going to end up with some sort of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" alliance with the Kett against them.

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I'm with you on that!  I'm going strongly for the Kett ending up being an ally 😉 Right now there seems to be no hope of that really. We also saw through the campaign, a very few rare occasions to "reason" with the Kett.  I think if there's a threat out there that took down the Jardaan, then it has probably been harassing the Kett as well and it would be mutually beneficial to join with them.

I actually have an additional wild theory based on this game and Destiny.  Why Destiny?  Because Andromeda devs have admitted to it inspiring them and it's plain to see in some things.  (Meridian, a white space orb Traveller on the run from scourge and darkness.)   

Now here we go; the Kett are very much like the Cabal in Destiny.  We see them, scrounging other planets, having a hard time surviving themselves and they don't really seem super well organized. This is because really they're just a small unit of a greater whole, as we found out, and they're not native to the system.  They say their orders were to exalt the system (and the Archon's personal goal was Meridian), in the Cabal's case it was to look for a viable place to settle away from Darkness (and to follow the Traveller).  In the Taken King DLC, we found out the Cabal were part of greater hierarchy (and this is actually the current plot for Destiny 2) and the Emperor was mentioned but never shown.  Much like the Kett hierarchy, mentioned but never seen.  That's not all that DLC taught us though - it also taught us that we only had contact with the Cabal because they were running from their home, which was lost to the darkness - and left them on the run scrambling to various systems trying to get something done, they were never truly an enemy, they were a fearful race - they were on the run.  I think that's where the similarities basically drop off, because as it stands now in Destiny there's like 0 hope of peace with the Cabal, whereas the Kett seem more likely to be an ally, which is more Bioware's style anyway.

And I believe that's why the Kett are doing this.   I think whatever hit the Jardaan, also probably hit the Kett first, they're a homeless species and their mad scramble around right now is to find any edge they can get to take it back. 

You may now remove your tinfoil hats, thank you for your time.   

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@jpcerutti1 wrote:

You know that resetting them is going to poke the sleeping mystery bear and wake it up. A bear that already ate the Jaardan and just went somewhere to sleep it off.  They will not be happy to have what was done undone.

I wonder if you're going to end up with some sort of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" alliance with the Kett against them.

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I'm with you on that!  I'm going strongly for the Kett ending up being an ally 😉 Right now there seems to be no hope of that really. We also saw through the campaign, a very few rare occasions to "reason" with the Kett.  I think if there's a threat out there that took down the Jardaan, then it has probably been harassing the Kett as well and it would be mutually beneficial to join with them.

I actually have an additional wild theory based on this game and Destiny.  Why Destiny?  Because Andromeda devs have admitted to it inspiring them and it's plain to see in some things.  (Meridian, a white space orb Traveller on the run from scourge and darkness.)   

Now here we go; the Kett are very much like the Cabal in Destiny.  We see them, scrounging other planets, having a hard time surviving themselves and they don't really seem super well organized. This is because really they're just a small unit of a greater whole, as we found out, and they're not native to the system.  They say their orders were to exalt the system (and the Archon's personal goal was Meridian), in the Cabal's case it was to look for a viable place to settle away from Darkness (and to follow the Traveller).  In the Taken King DLC, we found out the Cabal were part of greater hierarchy (and this is actually the current plot for Destiny 2) and the Emperor was mentioned but never shown.  Much like the Kett hierarchy, mentioned but never seen.  That's not all that DLC taught us though - it also taught us that we only had contact with the Cabal because they were running from their home, which was lost to the darkness - and left them on the run scrambling to various systems trying to get something done, they were never truly an enemy, they were a fearful race - they were on the run.  I think that's where the similarities basically drop off, because as it stands now in Destiny there's like 0 hope of peace with the Cabal, whereas the Kett seem more likely to be an ally, which is more Bioware's style anyway.

And I believe that's why the Kett are doing this.   I think whatever hit the Jardaan, also probably hit the Kett first, they're a homeless species and their mad scramble around right now is to find any edge they can get to take it back. 

You may now remove your tinfoil hats, thank you for your time.   

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I'm against the Kett as an ally personally. I actually would like to ally with the maker of the Scourge/enemy of the Jardaan instead. I am a little paranoid about people who get their kicks messing with DNA, and are possibly space-*. I'm kind of interested in who would oppose them. Plus the Scourge kind of feels like a weapon of desperation. I think that the enemies were on par with or below the full power of the Jardaan, and when both come back we will have to choose a side. It will be interesting.