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for the pipe u can use legion or tali.
team leaders miri or garrus
shield is samara/morinth or jack
send tali or mordin back with the crew since those two can die if they´re holding the line and use the other one for the final fight
and ur save
I've attached a picture that explains how the calculations are done for the suicide mission. That's how it worked in Legacy, anyway, maybe it can provide some help here.
Check the IGN guide. Only thing I can think off is that you picked the wrong person in one of the choices.
https://www.ign.com/wikis/mass-effect-2/How_the_Suicide_Mission_Works
- @StarfuryMK2 I tried this and still one of them died. They are all loyal also.
- @sweetpoison0011 I did this except I sent Mordin on Escort. Legion died then
- @Wiz13688 I checked guides already to see where I was going wrong. But even following their advice one person always dies on hold the line
Not sure if it's applicable to you. But maybe it has to do with the ‘lost achievements’ bug after the patch update. Mainly Xbox users.
Because the achievements for completing a loyalty mission are lost. It could be that your game isn’t registering your squad members as loyal. You can check your trophies in game.- sweetpoison00115 years agoSeasoned Ace@Duuuc A quick look at team status (cabin terminal) will show if your quad members are loyal. The only other thing witch can end in member's death is the upgrade status. Be sure you made all upgrades provided by quad mates (some upgrades might be unavailable if you lack the resources required).
- @Duuuc I'm on PC and it appears that all missions were registered
- Hold the Line
All other characters will now remain behind to hold the line against the Collectors (as Captain Kirrahe would say). This is easily the most complex section of the Suicide Mission's calculations for which Game Informer's graph is an invaluable resource for determining Point values, who can live or die, and what the death pecking order is.
Essentially, whether a squad member lives or dies is determined by an average Point value determined on who makes up the group, and whether or not they are loyal. Here are the base Point values of your Squad Mates:
4 Points: Grunt, Zaeed, Garrus
2 Points: Thane, Legion, Jacob, Miranda, Samara / Morinth
1 Point: Jack, Kasumi, Tali, Mordin
If any squad member is not Loyal, their point value is reduced by 1.
The average number of Points the team has will determine how many of them die. If the average is above 2, everyone on the team will live. Anything below that will risk up to three party members dying. - @reidrobot IIRC the difficulty you're playing on has something to say. Been a while. I recently did that mission on 'hardcore'. All upgrades were made. Everyone are loyal. I sent Kasumi in the vents. Garrus lead the 2nd team both times. Used Jack as Biotic shield. Mordin went home with the crew as he's the weakest defender afaik. For the final fight I brought Garrus and Kasumi. Nobody died. Could it have something to do with how long it takes you to clear the final boss?
I'd recommend, if you have, go back to a save before you launched through the relay and just try again. However it doesnt seem like you're doing anything wrong. You did keep the loyalty of your team members by making the speech checks, right? You can do the loyalty missions and then lose a loyalty if you fail the check, which MAY be influencing the outcome here.
@reidrobot Strange, always do it like i posted before and no one dies. Only the reaper team changes depending which romance i have.
As far as i can remember i only had deaths on my first time on the PS3 and later when i wanted to check how ME3 turns out when Tali isnt loyal, she died.
Get Tali in ME2 exiled and romance her, nice little talk when she arrives on the Normandy in ME3. But no chance to get both armies at the end of Rannoch.
- @Ironbeak95 I’m not sure. I usually clear the human reaper bit really quickly by using the adrenaline. I’m playing on normal. I did as you suggested and got the same result.
- @mcsupersport Nah, all are loyal. I used the paragon checks with each.
Then the most likely explanation would be that there some flags who are set wrongly in your savegame.
- @holger1405 I downloaded the save editor to check the flags, what should I look for? I have never used it before or any mods for that matter.
Open the Save Editor > Open > Select your ME2 Save file (Preferable the last one before you go to the Suicide Mission) > OK
Click on the "Plot" tab > click on the "Crew" tab > expand the Squad mates.
Look if "xxxx is loyal" is selected.
- @holger1405 Thanks, I did that and all are loyal :/
Did you tried to repair the game?
(Origin > Game Library > right click MELE > Repair)
(Steam > Game Library > right click at MELE > Properties > Local Files > Verify integrity of game files.)@reidrobotseems very odd to me. I just ran through it on a character and everyone survived like normal. Just out of curiosity, did you upgrade every single squad member, even the powers/weapons including legion's?
Also, in the cutscene where you talk with those holding the line, one on your side will get shot and go down regardless, but they actually survive. I saw you mention someone dying on 'hold the line', but in your orignal comment you say it happen after the reaper fight. Just thought I'd mention the 'hold the line' bit- Fred_vdp5 years agoHero+
@Ironbeak95 wrote:
did you upgrade every single squad member, even the powers/weapons including legion's?
This does not affect survival rate. You also previously mentioned the difficulty setting, which also doesn't affect it.
The flow chart contains all the relevant variables. If someone dies despite following the guide, then there has to be a bug or something was overlooked.
Edit: I previously credited Pacifien for the flow chart. I believe she figured out the logic of the suicide mission, but there were other contributors as well. I don't know who exactly, and with the closure of the old forum, it's harder to figure that out.
This chart is the best help for the ME2 endgame. 👍
Where's the chart (Iink, etc)?
In @Fred_vdp post directly over my last post.
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