Re: So What Did "Mass Effect: Andromeda' Learn From The 'Mass Effect 3' Ending Debac

Sure we want a lot more Hollywood Happy-end and Sheppard emperor of universe.

Mass Effect 3's ending was great if you understood the gravity of talking to the original and beyond ancient reaper AI. That it had powerful enough indoctrination to read Shepard's mind and take an image from his memory and display it before him. The child form allowing an emotional connection to put Shepard at ease to treat with the Galactic enemy to make a rational decision. That there was still another sacrifice to be made in the form of the Ultimate Paragon/Neutral/Renegade choice. There are more points to be made but I'll leave off saying that just because it didn't end with Shepard tea-bagging Harbinger while shooting his M-8 Avenger in the air with Garrus, Grunt and Wrex fist pumping in the background didn't make it a bad ending.

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@BANDIT440 wrote:

Mass Effect 3's ending was great if you understood the gravity of talking to the original and beyond ancient reaper AI. That it had powerful enough indoctrination to read Shepard's mind and take an image from his memory and display it before him. The child form allowing an emotional connection to put Shepard at ease to treat with the Galactic enemy to make a rational decision. That there was still another sacrifice to be made in the form of the Ultimate Paragon/Neutral/Renegade choice. There are more points to be made but I'll leave off saying that just because it didn't end with Shepard tea-bagging Harbinger while shooting his M-8 Avenger in the air with Garrus, Grunt and Wrex fist pumping in the background didn't make it a bad ending.

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Sorry, but Bioware said it wasn't anything to do with indoctrination......so your post is entirely incorrect.

I am just going by Biioware saying that all our choices will make a difference and noticeable difference at the end.....and. it. didn't.

That is what makes the ending suck.

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@JamieK81 wrote:

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@BANDIT440 wrote:

Mass Effect 3's ending was great if you understood the gravity of talking to the original and beyond ancient reaper AI. That it had powerful enough indoctrination to read Shepard's mind and take an image from his memory and display it before him. The child form allowing an emotional connection to put Shepard at ease to treat with the Galactic enemy to make a rational decision. That there was still another sacrifice to be made in the form of the Ultimate Paragon/Neutral/Renegade choice. There are more points to be made but I'll leave off saying that just because it didn't end with Shepard tea-bagging Harbinger while shooting his M-8 Avenger in the air with Garrus, Grunt and Wrex fist pumping in the background didn't make it a bad ending.

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Sorry, but Bioware said it wasn't anything to do with indoctrination......so your post is entirely incorrect.

I am just going by Biioware saying that all our choices will make a difference and noticeable difference at the end.....and. it. didn't.

That is what makes the ending suck.

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I didn't say Shepard was indoctrinated. I said the it used its powers to pull an image from his memory and display it before him. Only Shepard met the child in the intro and only Shepard saw his death so other than an indoctrination like ability you tell me how else the image was pulled from his memory. Even if I am slightly off in my interpretation, which all things boil down to in situations like that, the trilogy had good endings and with the extended cut and Citadel content a fulfilling ones. I feel bad for you, really bad, that you couldn't enjoy the endings. So even if the paragon and renegade choices only made differences during gameplay that is fine and even understandable. Understandable from a development standpoint. How many endings could you reasonably expect beyond the several they made. At some point you have to cut things off. So you could have made the choice to only pick the ending that you were leaning towards on that play through or they could have locked you out of an ending that you didn't have the proper moral stance to choose. So what really sucks is when people like you who don't get their way 100% dump all over other peoples great art and story instead of taking it in and appreciating it.

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@BANDIT440 wrote:

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@JamieK81 wrote:

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@BANDIT440 wrote:

Mass Effect 3's ending was great if you understood the gravity of talking to the original and beyond ancient reaper AI. That it had powerful enough indoctrination to read Shepard's mind and take an image from his memory and display it before him. The child form allowing an emotional connection to put Shepard at ease to treat with the Galactic enemy to make a rational decision. That there was still another sacrifice to be made in the form of the Ultimate Paragon/Neutral/Renegade choice. There are more points to be made but I'll leave off saying that just because it didn't end with Shepard tea-bagging Harbinger while shooting his M-8 Avenger in the air with Garrus, Grunt and Wrex fist pumping in the background didn't make it a bad ending.

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Sorry, but Bioware said it wasn't anything to do with indoctrination......so your post is entirely incorrect.

I am just going by Biioware saying that all our choices will make a difference and noticeable difference at the end.....and. it. didn't.

That is what makes the ending suck.

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I didn't say Shepard was indoctrinated. I said the it used its powers to pull an image from his memory and display it before him. Only Shepard met the child in the intro and only Shepard saw his death so other than an indoctrination like ability you tell me how else the image was pulled from his memory. Even if I am slightly off in my interpretation, which all things boil down to in situations like that, the trilogy had good endings and with the extended cut and Citadel content a fulfilling ones. I feel bad for you, really bad, that you couldn't enjoy the endings. So even if the paragon and renegade choices only made differences during gameplay that is fine and even understandable. Understandable from a development standpoint. How many endings could you reasonably expect beyond the several they made. At some point you have to cut things off. So you could have made the choice to only pick the ending that you were leaning towards on that play through or they could have locked you out of an ending that you didn't have the proper moral stance to choose. So what really sucks is when people like you who don't get their way 100% dump all over other peoples great art and story instead of taking it in and appreciating it.

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The whole premise of the series was that your choices matter and carried on, the ending of ME3 did none of that.  They were clearly rushed and had to put out a sub par ending, much like they pushed out Andromeda with the staggering amount of bugs it has.

Let mass effect fans hope that mass effect 4 on playstation 5 will be better.

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@Dlokir wrote:

Sure we want a lot more Hollywood Happy-end and Sheppard emperor of universe.

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I am just going by Biioware saying that all our choices will make a difference and noticeable difference at the end.....and. it. didn't.

That is what makes the ending suck.

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@SaintHedgehog wrote:

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@Dlokir wrote:

Sure we want a lot more Hollywood Happy-end and Sheppard emperor of universe.

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I am just going by Biioware saying that all our choices will make a difference and noticeable difference at the end.....and. it. didn't.

That is what makes the ending suck.

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It totally built up to a choice. You could choose to work and build friends and alliances just to screw them over in the end, or you could screw them over all along the way so the end doesn't matter.