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Anonymous
12 years ago

Re: Why does Shepard always die?

[ME3 SPOILERS]

If you have a high enough EMS rating (12000 I believe) you can choose the destroy ending and s/he will live

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  • voteDC's avatar
    voteDC
    New Vanguard
    12 years ago

    You get a breath scene which is hardly conclusive of Shepard surviving.

    The best thing I could suggest is that if you haver the PC version of the game have a look for the MEHEM on the Bioware social site. Here's a link http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/14795358/1.

    Essentially this will change the end game, remove the hologram kid, and ensure a happier resolution.

  • Fred_vdp's avatar
    Fred_vdp
    Hero+
    12 years ago

    @drzaximus wrote:

    [ME3 SPOILERS]

    If you have a high enough EMS rating (12000 I believe) you can choose the destroy ending and s/he will live


    You need 4000 in the vanilla game and 3100 if the extended cut is installed.


  • @fredvdp wrote:

    @drzaximus wrote:

    [ME3 SPOILERS]

    If you have a high enough EMS rating (12000 I believe) you can choose the destroy ending and s/he will live


    You need 4000 in the vanilla game and 3100 if the extended cut is installed.


    Depending on how you define "live",  See the SPOILER in my post four back (not the one in my post two back. 😕mileywink: )

  • Fred_vdp's avatar
    Fred_vdp
    Hero+
    12 years ago

    @ThandalNLyman wrote:

    @fredvdp wrote:

    @drzaximus wrote:

    [ME3 SPOILERS]

    If you have a high enough EMS rating (12000 I believe) you can choose the destroy ending and s/he will live


    You need 4000 in the vanilla game and 3100 if the extended cut is installed.


    Depending on how you define "live",  See the SPOILER in my post four back (not the one in my post two back. 😕mileywink: )


    Spoiler
    If the gasp doesn't mean Shepard lives, then there's no point in not including it in every ending but the most complete one. The cinematics are also titled End03_Shepard_Alive_Male or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.

  • @fredvdp wrote:

    @ThandalNLyman wrote:

    @fredvdp wrote:

    @drzaximus wrote:

    [ME3 SPOILERS]

    If you have a high enough EMS rating (12000 I believe) you can choose the destroy ending and s/he will live


    You need 4000 in the vanilla game and 3100 if the extended cut is installed.


    Depending on how you define "live",  See the SPOILER in my post four back (not the one in my post two back. 😕mileywink: )


    Spoiler
    If the gasp doesn't mean Shepard lives, then there's no point in not including it in every ending but the most complete one. The cinematics are also titled End03_Shepard_Alive_Male or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.

    Yeah, that's what it's supposed to mean. (And I mean that *both* ways!)

    But I felt it still left things... unresolved. And me unsatisfied.

  • Fred_vdp's avatar
    Fred_vdp
    Hero+
    12 years ago

    Despite the endings being quite bleak, especially in the original cut, I was fairly satisfied. There's one addition in the extended cut I didn't like at all, and that was

    Spoiler
    that the mass relays weren't completely destroyed. I thought it was appropriate that destroying the Reapers would also destroy all of their technology. I know I'm part of a very small minority who thinks that way. :😕mileyhappy:
  • Hyncharas's avatar
    Hyncharas
    New Traveler
    12 years ago

    So does that mean that if you have over 3100 points from the Extended Cut; even without Multiplayer Readiness above 50%, you can win without Shepard dying?

    I ask about Multiplayer because I only started playing the campaign a couple of weeks ago, and after sitting in the Multiplayer lobby for 30-min intervals on different days, I've found nobody actually play that portion of the game when I'm online, which is usually in the afternoons GMT...

    It would've been great if people could choose at least one AI companion for Multiplayer if they don't have any friends who own the game on 360.  Without this, it's impossible for you to complete the challenges solo even on the lowest difficulty setting.

    Spoiler
    I do understand the ending-caveat you speak of, however, fredvdp - you defeat the Reapers, but don't encounter the force that made them that way.  Perhaps ME4 (assuming there will even be one) explores this.

  • @fredvdp wrote:

    Despite the endings being quite bleak, especially in the original cut, I was fairly satisfied. There's one addition in the extended cut I didn't like at all, and that was

    Spoiler
    that the mass relays weren't completely destroyed. I thought it was appropriate that destroying the Reapers would also destroy all of their technology. I know I'm part of a very small minority who thinks that way. :😕mileyhappy:

    Yeah, I noticed that too... 

    Spoiler
    And regardless of the fact that the relays appear not to have been completely destroyed, the extent of the damage means no one will be using them for the forseeable future.  So Primarch Victus, Urdnot Wrex, and a whole lot of others will be stuck on Earth where they can't even eat the food

  • @Hyncharas wrote:

    So does that mean that if you have over 3100 points from the Extended Cut; even without Multiplayer Readiness above 50%, you can win without Shepard dying?

    I ask about Multiplayer because I only started playing the campaign a couple of weeks ago, and after sitting in the Multiplayer lobby for 30-min intervals on different days, I've found nobody actually play that portion of the game when I'm online, which is usually in the afternoons GMT...

    It would've been great if people could choose at least one AI companion for Multiplayer if they don't have any friends who own the game on 360.  Without this, it's impossible for you to complete the challenges solo even on the lowest difficulty setting.


    Answer to the question is "Yes."  I just finished a complete playthrough and achieved that ending without ever doing MP.  "Galactic Readiness" stayed at exactly 50% the entire time.

    As for no one being available to join you for MP, I think you've made some mistake in how you enter the Lobby.  ME3 MP is played globally.  Time-zone doesn't really matter, there are always people looking for pick-up games.  I had the same thing happen when I first tried MP (over a year ago).  I made made too many specific selections (sector, challenge-level, etc.)  Never anyone to play with.  When I basically just popped-in with only the challenge-level set I never had to wait for than a couple of minutes to join a match.  Played in several and achieved Level-15 Adept, but haven't been back.

  • Fred_vdp's avatar
    Fred_vdp
    Hero+
    12 years ago

    @ThandalNLyman wrote:

    @fredvdp wrote:

    Despite the endings being quite bleak, especially in the original cut, I was fairly satisfied. There's one addition in the extended cut I didn't like at all, and that was

    Spoiler
    that the mass relays weren't completely destroyed. I thought it was appropriate that destroying the Reapers would also destroy all of their technology. I know I'm part of a very small minority who thinks that way. :😕mileyhappy:

    Yeah, I noticed that too... 

    Spoiler
    And regardless of the fact that the relays appear not to have been completely destroyed, the extent of the damage means no one will be using them for the forseeable future.  So Primarch Victus, Urdnot Wrex, and a whole lot of others will be stuck on Earth where they can't even eat the food

    Spoiler

    True, but I've read somewhere that FTL is a great deal faster than light and would allow these ships to reach their homeworlds in a long, but survivable time, except for the quarians. Quarians have live ships, though, which likely produce their own crops which both the quarians and turians can eat. I think krogan can eat quarian food as well. Turian food gives them the runs, according to Wrex.


  • @fredvdp wrote:

    @ThandalNLyman wrote:

    @fredvdp wrote:

    Despite the endings being quite bleak, especially in the original cut, I was fairly satisfied. There's one addition in the extended cut I didn't like at all, and that was

    Spoiler
    that the mass relays weren't completely destroyed. I thought it was appropriate that destroying the Reapers would also destroy all of their technology. I know I'm part of a very small minority who thinks that way. :😕mileyhappy:

    Yeah, I noticed that too... 

    Spoiler
    And regardless of the fact that the relays appear not to have been completely destroyed, the extent of the damage means no one will be using them for the forseeable future.  So Primarch Victus, Urdnot Wrex, and a whole lot of others will be stuck on Earth where they can't even eat the food

    Spoiler

    True, but I've read somewhere that FTL is a great deal faster than light and would allow these ships to reach their homeworlds in a long, but survivable time, except for the quarians. Quarians have live ships, though, which likely produce their own crops which both the quarians and turians can eat. I think krogan can eat quarian food as well. Turian food gives them the runs, according to Wrex.


    Spoiler

    FTL drive is one thing, but it needs refueling depots and the galaxy is a BIG place.  Without the mass relays, it'd still be decades or centuries to get from one Sector to another.  An specific individual krogan or asari might make it with a liveship, (hope you see Eve again, Wrex) but no human or turian would!  😕mileytongue:

    Ya' gotta love discussions of what's "possible" in a sci-fi setting.  😕mileywink:

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