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Fred_vdp wrote:
Haravikk wrote:Related to this is that there was also a slight issue with Andromeda opting for the "chosen one" trope; in the original trilogy Shepard is a solider, an N7 sure, but there's nothing otherwise special about them as such, they're just stubborn and refuses to die, whereas being a pathfinder you often feel like you're only special because of SAM. This is further compounded a bit by most of your achievements being based on Remnant tech, so a lot of what you do doesn't feel like you deserved it, because really it was all the work of mysteriously absent old yet advanced aliens whose stuff you could only use because of SAM.
That's exactly the issue I had with the narrative. Ryder's accomplishments were actually SAM's accomplishments. That's why my favorite part of the game is the final mission, where SAM is almost entirely absent.
You could argue that this last mission proves that it is indeed Ryder that makes all the difference. 😉
Besides that, there is a reason that this thread is named "This game is a clear example of WTF is wrong with Gamers Today....". (And rightly so.)
Imho the hate train against Andromeda had little to do with fans don't giving it some leeway, there were many other reasons for it and some are more political than game related.
It starts with this ridicules claim that Bioware bowed to the Feminist movement because the Women don't look like supermodels but like normal human (or other 😉 ) beings.
There are some other reasons, but I listen them already more than one time.
So in my opinion, the title of the thread is spot on.
@holger1405 wrote:
It starts with this ridicules claim that Bioware bowed to the Feminist movement because the Women don't look like supermodels but like normal human (or other 😉 ) beings.
Yeah, I didn't understand those kinds of criticisms; I saw various complaints like that before playing, but man, did you see that outfit Vetra wears? That scarf, rawr!
Or more seriously, the armour Cora and Sarissa wear; someone did not want those curves to go unnoticed! Then there's the romance scene with PeeBee. I sometimes wonder if those complaints were solely down to director Adisson having too much rouge on her cheeks. Such a weird complaint to make though.
Other than the technical issues, I haven't really seen any criticisms that I wouldn't consider minor; sure, I hate the "chosen one" trope, but it's never actually spoiled my enjoyment of a game. They could have fully deus ex machina'd the ending like in ME3 and had actual bra burning sequences, but with the same basic gameplay and exploration I'd still have had a blast playing it.
It's easy to focus on the negatives, and I often do, but in the hopes of informing future improvements rather than just to vent. Plus ultimately negatives are only bad if they outweigh the positives.
Anyone legitimately willing to give the game a chance should be able to accept that they don't. It's a good game, it's more Mass Effect, and that's all I wanted (and want).
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