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Fred_vdp wrote:
Haravikk wrote:Related to this is that there was also a slight issue with Andromeda opting for the "chosen one" trope; in the original trilogy Shepard is a solider, an N7 sure, but there's nothing otherwise special about them as such, they're just stubborn and refuses to die, whereas being a pathfinder you often feel like you're only special because of SAM. This is further compounded a bit by most of your achievements being based on Remnant tech, so a lot of what you do doesn't feel like you deserved it, because really it was all the work of mysteriously absent old yet advanced aliens whose stuff you could only use because of SAM.
That's exactly the issue I had with the narrative. Ryder's accomplishments were actually SAM's accomplishments. That's why my favorite part of the game is the final mission, where SAM is almost entirely absent.
You could argue that this last mission proves that it is indeed Ryder that makes all the difference. 😉
Besides that, there is a reason that this thread is named "This game is a clear example of WTF is wrong with Gamers Today....". (And rightly so.)
Imho the hate train against Andromeda had little to do with fans don't giving it some leeway, there were many other reasons for it and some are more political than game related.
It starts with this ridicules claim that Bioware bowed to the Feminist movement because the Women don't look like supermodels but like normal human (or other 😉 ) beings.
There are some other reasons, but I listen them already more than one time.
So in my opinion, the title of the thread is spot on.
@holger1405 wrote:
It starts with this ridicules claim that Bioware bowed to the Feminist movement because the Women don't look like supermodels but like normal human (or other 😉 ) beings.
I see claims like that all the time, directed at many game devs. I read a comment on Steam recently (yeah, I know Steam forums are worse than YouTube comments), where someone said that the "SJWs" make women in games ugly on purpose. His two examples were Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn, and Kait Diaz from the Gears of War series. Tastes differ, I guess, but those characters were definitely not meant to be ugly.
And even if devs made characters unattractive on purpose, I don't see why that would be a problem. I also don't see the link with the feminist movement.
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