Drag Racing question's.

@XGCSith

"Do you even know what you are talking about? The car is designed to do what it does. Do tell us how its not some grand achievement."

Because it's designed to be an overpowered heap of junk. Here we are competing to make a road legal sports car that can beat the communists' time on the Nurburgring and we have to stop to give applause to SRT for making a car that can drive 400 meters really fast. Well done SRT, only 20400 meters to go.

"Also, if you would educate yourself, its not that the Skylines are deemed unsafe, its that those cars do not fall under US DOT safety standards and US Emissions standards."

Oh right my bad, it's not because the US government deems it unsafe, but because the laws that they wrote deem it unsafe. Right, my mistake.

Are you for real?

"It falls under the Show and Display rule meaning you can drive it on the street but only for 2500 miles a year."

I like the way you said that like it's a logical concept.

@HazzardOutlaw

"It was pretty clear he didn't know what he was talking about. Also bashing the country was uncalled for. Bashing some of our stupid laws would be no big deal and not be taken as a personal attack though."

Which is what you're doing right now, any moment now you'll be bringing out the race card.

If I wanted to bash the US it really wouldn't be that hard, especially given the amount of blind patriotism being displayed in this thread at the present time. If you really want to show filthy foreigners like me how good you are at being an anime American, at least have some standards and pick someone who actually deserves it, like Hennessey or Ford.

Also you are aware Chrysler is owned by FIAT right?

"In real life my money would be on the Dodge Challenger Demon embarrassing a Nissan R34 Skyline at the drag strip."

Somehow I doubt the R34 driver would be crying himself to sleep every night after that. Firstly because he can actually drive back home in the same car without having to make three stops at the gas station, secondly because even if he never manages to win a single drag race his car will still appreciate in value, and lastly because while it might not stand a chance on a 400 meter piece of straight road against the Demon, it will annihilate it pretty much everywhere else.

@master2g

In the EU you can drive pretty much anything as long you're willing to pay the taxes. I can't think of any road cars that are explicitly banned in any EU country, although Germany passed a law a while back that permits cities to ban diesel cars if they deem the levels of air pollution to be too high, which is fine by me.

@EA_Barry

I've answered OP's questions in my first reply, this thread has served it's purpose. Might be time to lock it?

@XGCSith

"if you actually read I just told you it has nothing to do with the car being unsafe. There is no US market for those cars and they were never intended to be in the US market. They not follow US DOT or US emissions standards. Thats why they are not legal until until 25 years old. They are considered classic cars and are exempt from those standards."

Just because I think it's nonsense doesn't mean I didn't read it, I break it into small quotes precisely so you can't say I didn't read it.

The 25 year thing is another example of moronic legislature.

"If you read what I said, you would see that."

Except that's not what you said at all. Maybe YOU should go back and read your own nonsense again before you complain that other people misunderstand you, because you clearly haven't been keeping track of it. You said the R34 GT-R is banned in the US because it doesn't "fall under US DOT safety standards and US Emissions standards" which is a direct contradiction of what you said before, that it's not banned because it's deemed unsafe.

"I could care less what you guys are building in your country. The fact that you cant accept that FCA built a 9 second street legal 1/4 mile car is ignorant in your part. If you can't respect that a manufacturer build a car such as the Demon, you really shouldn't belong in the car world. It sounds like jealously to me."

So you couldn't care less what cars we make, but we're supposed to applause every time you make a car with a gimmick? Well that seems fair.

Did you seriously just use the jealousy card when 8/10 of the fastest road cars in the world are European? While the only two American cars use European chassis? Really? Oh my god XD

@mrtun3r

So umm which "Race Card" are we talking about that i'm supposed to bring out? Besides I quit worrying about this video game stuff. I made a comment about a race and I'm well aware a snowflake would be driving the R34 and those are the one's that would go cry to mom they lost. Are you aware that at 1 point in history Lamborghini was owned by Chrysler? Probably not since you think it's some big deal that Fiat now controls Chrysler and yes some of their products are made in Mexico.  You also might get small things imported from other places to make an automobile or are you not aware of that?

@XGCSith

"The fact that the Demon is a 9 second drag car is not gimmick. It can actually do it. I dont see how thats a gimmick."

It's a gimmick because it's silly and only meant to attract attention. What's next, a truck that runs on moonshine?

"You just did the same thing. We are supposed to applaud Europe for something that has been achieved many times yet, FCA developes a car that has never done what any other manufacturer has done and its a gimmick? Give me a break."

Don't turn this around, I'm not the one throwing a fit because someone else said this car sucks or that car sucks. You people bash Koenigsegg on the regular basis, yet you don't see me going on a patriotic rage over it.

Also you claim it's something that has never been done before but that's complete nonsense, the internet is full of videos of sleepers running the quarter mile in under 9 seconds. It hasn't been done on a production level because it's a waste of resources when any dedicated petrol head can build a dragster in their garage, unlike a hypercar which takes years of advanced engineering to create.

"If you want to learn about US importing laws, look it up yourself."

I did, that's how I know they're a bad joke.

"I beginning to think hes just and American hater. Calls out our "fake" patriotism, dogs on US cars and seems to dog on our countries laws."

I called your patriotism blind, not fake, it's the exact opposite. Plus all you've been doing so far is proving me right, so...

@HazzardOutlaw

"So umm which "Race Card" are we talking about that i'm supposed to bring out? Besides I quit worrying about this video game stuff. I made a comment about a race and I'm well aware a snowflake would be driving the R34 and those are the one's that would go cry to mom they lost."

Probably, but the thing is, they almost never lose. Sure a stock Challenger Demon could beat a stock R34 GT-R on the quarter mile with little effort since it has twice as much power, but that's not how drag racing works. Put the Challenger Demon against a tuned RB26DETT with the same power output and you'll be eating Skyline dust for breakfast.

"Are you aware that at 1 point in history Lamborghini was owned by Chrysler?"

Yeah and they had the worst build quality and customer service in their entire history during that time. Coincidence?

@Comminity On Thread

Here, read all about Import laws to America with your Cars! 

A lot of stuff has to be done before you import your car into America!

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/218/~/requirements-for-importing-a-vehicle-%2F-vehicle-parts

Regards

BLVD69

It's all good your biased and so am I so get over it. 

Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2IPJBDmPdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vaMUBgIuuo

It also depends on if the driver has a clue on how to race his car or not. So it's not only the car you have to beat but the driver also.

@XGCSith

Yea he is dogging hard and probably think's we will get upset. That's my guess since he want's me to pull out that stupid "RACE CARD". That won't work since i'm pretty sure he's not an alien from another planet. I got my answer that it wasn't a game glitch about the Regera but instead a design flaw. Now this guy want's to gripe and moan about useless nonsense. He must not realize we are used to getting all the hate. So for me at least. His stupid griping about how America is so bad and aweful is just going in one ear and out the other. 

I wish he would preach this garbage to Mexicans. Then we wouldn't need a wall to put an end to illegal immigration. He could stop it for us by preaching his hate for America which could save us a ton of money.

@mrtun3r 

It's a gimmick because it's silly and only meant to attract attention. What's next, a truck that runs on moonshine?

No its not a gimmick. Its a limited edition production car that happens to be a factory 9 second drag car. Its meant to be a commemoration to the old school production drag cars from the 60s. Also, considering Moonshine in Ethanol, you can already run cars off Moonshine with the right fuel/ignition parts. 

Don't turn this around, I'm not the one throwing a fit because someone else said this car sucks or that car sucks. You people bash Koenigsegg on the regular basis, yet you don't see me going on a patriotic rage over it.

Also you claim it's something that has never been done before but that's complete nonsense, the internet is full of videos of sleepers running the quarter mile in under 9 seconds. It hasn't been done on a production level because it's a waste of resources when any dedicated petrol head can build a dragster in their garage, unlike a hypercar which takes years of advanced engineering to create.

I'm not throwing a fit. You're just being ignorant and cant see the fact that the car is not a gimmick and it is a great achievement in American automotive history. You're blind by Europe's obsession with The Nurbugring and cant accept the fact the cultures are different between the US and Europe. We focus on drag racing, Europe focuses on road racing. How is it a waste of resources? Who bashes Koenigsegg? You do realize it takes more than $80,000 to build a 9 second drag car right? Not just anyone can build a dragster. It takes a  lot of time, dedication and money to build one just like a hypercar. Stop making it seem hyercars are better than everything. Also, I never said it hasn't been done before. It has never been done in a production car level. 

I did, that's how I know they're a bad joke.

Obviously you didn't otherwise you would know that its not exactly safety that causes cars to not be eligible for legal importing. We have safety and emissions standards, whats so wrong with that? If you want to blame someone for the rules, blame Mercedes Benz for it. They are the reason for the importing laws in the first place. Want to blame someone for the emissions standards, blame California. They are the ones that started it. Its called C.A.R.B.

I called your patriotism blind, not fake, it's the exact opposite. Plus all you've been doing so far is proving me right, so...

I'm not a blind patriot. I like my country and I will chose to defend it if and when that time comes. What exactly have I proven to you?

Probably, but the thing is, they almost never lose. Sure a stock Challenger Demon could beat a stock R34 GT-R on the quarter mile with little effort since it has twice as much power, but that's not how drag racing works. Put the Challenger Demon against a tuned RB26DETT with the same power output and you'll be eating Skyline dust for breakfast.

It rakes more than an engine and power to be a fast car. Just because a car can make more power does not mean it will be faster. 

Yeah and they had the worst build quality and customer service in their entire history during that time. Coincidence?

Do tell us how. 

@CLP122214 

Dude, you just set the record straight...So refreshing!

I don't know what it is with the folks from Europe but they sure wear their blinders well!

Anytime we Americans try to explain our culture of Automobiles, people from Europe act like we're blowing smoke.

I posted a link to laws on imports, I guess that guy from Europe didn't read it or just thought it didn't matter.

Thanks for maxing out the thread and educating those outside of America on Import Car Laws

and Automobiles in general in America!

Regards

BLVD69

mrtun3r wrote:
@EA_Barry

I've answered OP's questions in my first reply, this thread has served it's purpose. Might be time to lock it?

@mrtun3r I can close the thread if I wanted to. The thread indeed has served its purpose.

Although I mainly do that if things get heated between users.

However, there may be people that may have some Drag racing questions and can post them in this thread if they wanted to.

Unlike the previous warning I gave for being off-topic that led to nowhere, you guys are all just talking to each other about cars. And that's fine by me.

Just be sure to keep it civilized and clean.

@mrtun3r Threads do not get locked simply because a question has been answered.

Threads get locked for reasons which break the AHQ User Rules and Guidelines which you can find here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/help/faqpage

Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with them.

@XGCSith

"No its not a gimmick. Its a limited edition production car that happens to be a factory 9 second drag car. Its meant to be a commemoration to the old school production drag cars from the 60s. Also, considering Moonshine in Ethanol, you can already run cars off Moonshine with the right fuel/ignition parts."

Yeah but we don't do that. You know why? Because it's dumb. It's a gimmick.

"I'm not throwing a fit. You're just being ignorant and cant see the fact that the car is not a gimmick and it is a great achievement in American automotive history."

Which means nothing outside the USA, to the rest of the world it's just a pile of scrap metal with an overpowered engine that can run 400 meters really fast. But I was willing to go with "to each his own" until you made it personal and started shoving your star spangled banner in my face .

"You're blind by Europe's obsession with The Nurbugring and cant accept the fact the cultures are different between the US and Europe. We focus on drag racing, Europe focuses on road racing. How is it a waste of resources? Who bashes Koenigsegg? You do realize it takes more than $80,000 to build a 9 second drag car right? Not just anyone can build a dragster. It takes a  lot of time, dedication and money to build one just like a hypercar. Stop making it seem hyercars are better than everything. Also, I never said it hasn't been done before."

Actually it's Europe and Asia. Great minds think alike.

Anyway our "obsession" with the Nurburgring leads to innovations outside the race track. What is running a quarter mile fast supposed to achieve? The only reason that's even a thing is because it's a type of racing that's easy to get into and doesn't require much investment.

"It has never been done in a production car level."

Yes and I've already explained why. It's a waste of resources that leads to nothing.

"Obviously you didn't otherwise you would know that its not exactly safety that causes cars to not be eligible for legal importing. We have safety and emissions standards, whats so wrong with that?"

"It's not safety, it's safety and emissions".

That's basically what you just said in a nutshell. Jesus Christ...

"If you want to blame someone for the rules, blame Mercedes Benz for it. They are the reason for the importing laws in the first place."

They're also the reason you have automobiles to begin with, not to mention countless innovations for them throughout the years. What contribution did Chrysler ever make to the car industry as a whole, aside from making poor business decisions, lowering the standards for everybody and getting bailed out by the government?

"Want to blame someone for the emissions standards, blame California. They are the ones that started it. Its called C.A.R.B."

So California isn't part of the US now? Well, that sounds like a well oiled machine.

"I'm not a blind patriot. I like my country and I will chose to defend it if and when that time comes. What exactly have I proven to you?"

That you suffer of blind patriotism and you're in denial. You just did it again.

"It rakes more than an engine and power to be a fast car. Just because a car can make more power does not mean it will be faster."

Exactly, which is why the Challenger Demon would lose horribly.

"Do tell us how. "

How about the fact that first gen Diablo's used regular car batteries and didn't have anything in place to ensure that they didn't die after a few weeks? How about the fact that the hydraulics on the doors weren't weather-proof at all and gave out in a matter of months? Or the fact that they did not feature any kind of adjustable seats and you had to drive with your right hand on the shifter or else you risked hitting it with your elbow? You want more?

@HazzardOutlaw

"It's all good your biased and so am I so get over it."

You're*

And I'm not biased. I like American cars, just not the Challenger Demon.

"It also depends on if the driver has a clue on how to race his car or not. So it's not only the car you have to beat but the driver also."

Rubbish. The USA is the only place in the world where "Can you drive stick?" is a real question.

"Yea he is dogging hard and probably think's we will get upset"

That ship has sailed. Now you're at the denial stage.

"I wish he would preach this garbage to Mexicans. Then we wouldn't need a wall to put an end to illegal immigration. He could stop it for us by preaching his hate for America which could save us a ton of money."

Except Mexicans aren't a problem for us, Syrian refugees are. And it's about to get worse courtesy of the insecure control freak you handed the nuke button to.

Thanks for that, by the way.

@BLVD69

"Dude, you just set the record straight..."

No he didn't. He's just doing the same thing he's been doing ever since he got triggered by my comment on the Challenger Demon, pounding his chest and yelling "We are the best at everything!" and "You hate America!" as Americans always like to do.

"I don't know what it is with the folks from Europe but they sure wear their blinders well!"

That's literally what you're doing. Every time you're confronted with logic you put your patriotic sunglasses on and act like the other guy is being anti-American. It's so cliche I can't even tell if you guys are being serious or just trying to troll me.

"I posted a link to laws on imports, I guess that guy from Europe didn't read it or just thought it didn't matter."

I'm already familiar with your import laws. Maybe you should spend less time posting random links and more time getting informed, all you ever do here is post links to articles and act like it's some kind of undeniable proof when half the time they aren't even relevant to the discussion, like you did when me and CLIP122214 were talking about the NFS sales.

Well, either that or kissing a**.

"Anytime we Americans try to explain our culture of Automobiles, people from Europe act like we're blowing smoke."

Probably because you always blow your top and take it personally whenever someone criticizes anything from America.

@EA_Darko

"Threads do not get locked simply because a question has been answered."

I've seen you do that before.

@mrtun3r Threads are not locked once a question is answered. If you take a look at the AHQ User Rules and Guidelines you will find a number of reasons why a thread may be locked. 

@mrtun3r

So you are clueless about drag racing. If the person has the great car and can't drive it right by shifting then he loses. The guy that knows what he is doing and can shift right actually has a chance to beat the guy with the better car in some cases. Go look at you tube video's where the Nissan GTR is beating Dodge Challengers. It's pretty clear to me the Challenger owners getting beat in some of those videos have no clue what they are doing. 

Calling something a gimmick when it isn't is stupid by the way. Or are you telling us that a Bugatti having a fast car and a small gas tank isn't a gimmick? I see a Bugatti as nothing more than an overpriced ugly piece of junk. Yea it was the fastest car around according to records but isn't that a gimmick? Speaking of the Nurburgring the Viper has track records there and so Americans are capable of building road cars just like Europe.  Shelby was able to beat Ferrari's back in the day as more proof we are capable of building road cars. What you insult as American gimmicks are actually automotive history and bashing it is like throwing your Europe is better than America * in the air. So playing the my poo don't stink card when you are doing it as well  doesn't make it right. 

Go read this on Chrysler and educate yourself. Since you claim they made no innovations to automobiles. Also Mercedes helped ruin Chrysler and was upstaged by Chrysler also when Chrysler built the ME412 concept car.

https://www.allpar.com/corporate/technology.html

Then we have Ford and his assembly line innovations. We got the death of Plymouth from Europeans.

Some people will always call one countries innovations stupid and dumb because they just can't be respectful enough to acknowledge that it was an innovation for that country. So they insult it and call it a gimmick.

 We also have drag races where diesel trucks are beating street cars. But for some that must be a gimmick but to others it's pretty cool stuff.

@mrtun3r

Your Comments: 

@BLVD69

"Dude, you just set the record straight..."

No, he didn't. He's just doing the same thing he's been doing ever since he got triggered by my comment on the Challenger Demon, pounding his chest and yelling "We are the best at everything!" and "You hate America!" as Americans always like to do.

My Reply:

Yes, he did set the record Straight, you just didn't like the truth!

Fun fact on the  2018 Challenger Demon.

It's got 840 horses, does 0-60 in 2.3 seconds, and hits the quarter-mile in 9.65 at more than 140 mph.

Plus this car has 2.7.litre Supercharger & 3:09:1 rear end gearing provides more torque. 

Granted that's not the fastest car ever produced in the world.

However, I would not call it weak for a Street legal car!

Oh, I'm sure you have some Super Car in Europe you will boast about, but frankly, you can keep that overpriced scrap in your backyard! 

 "I don't know what it is with the folks from Europe but they sure wear their blinders well!"

 That's literally what you're doing. Every time you're confronted with logic you put your patriotic sunglasses on and act like the other guy is being anti-American. It's so cliche I can't even tell if you guys are being serious or just trying to troll me.

My Reply: You darn right I will always wear my Red, White & Blue Sunglasses

I come from a long line of American Veterans from the very beginnings of America.

I never joke about my heritage and the sacrifice so many paid for our Freedom here in America!

 "I posted a link to laws on imports, I guess that guy from Europe didn't read it or just thought it didn't matter."

 I'm already familiar with your import laws. Maybe you should spend less time posting random links and more time getting informed, all you ever do here is post links to articles and act like it's some kind of undeniable proof when half the time they aren't even relevant to the discussion, like you did when me and CLIP122214 were talking about the NFS sales.

 Well, either that or kissing a**.

My Reply:

The links I did post are relevant to the conversation taking place, you just decided to ignore them.

I call that your loss!

Also, you say you're familiar with our Import laws.

Wait are you sure we're talking about the same country?

I'm talking about America and so were a few other people in this thread!

I guess people only from Europe or Asia know American Export laws better than an actual American who lives on this side of the ocean!

Checkmate!

 "Anytime we Americans try to explain our culture of Automobiles, people from Europe act like we're blowing smoke."

 Probably because you always blow your top and take it personally whenever someone criticizes anything from America.

My Reply:

False, no one was blowing their top.

Actually, if you just took the time to compare all the notes and not just random posts within this thread.

You would have learned that people are trying to catch you up to speed on the conversation here!

I have a Grilled Cheese for your whining.

Regards

Blvd69

@mrtun3r

Yeah but we don't do that. You know why? Because it's dumb. It's a gimmick.

So, because it is not done in Europe its automatically a gimmick? Are you being for real or are you ignorant?

Which means nothing outside the USA, to the rest of the world it's just a pile of scrap metal with an overpowered engine that can run 400 meters really fast. But I was willing to go with "to each his own" until you made it personal and started shoving your star spangled banner in my face .

So, because again, because Europe only wants to make cars that go around in a race track, the Demon is just a pile scrap? I did not know you were the spokesperson for all of Europe here. First, no one shoved a star spangled banner in your face. I'm sorry the US offends you. Secondly, no one got offended but you here. Also, did you know Chevy makes whats called a COPO Camaro? Its a $100,000 car that comes with no engine. The engine is extra. its also drag use only.

Actually it's Europe and Asia. Great minds think alike.

Anyway our "obsession" with the Nurburgring leads to innovations outside the race track. What is running a quarter mile fast supposed to achieve? 

Oh, my fault, I didn't know we were discussing Asia here.

You must have forgotten that US cars have ran on the Nurburgring too. You know, Vipers (made by the same brand you apparently hate), Chevy and Ford (all took the government bailout but, I guess you did'nt know that).

The only reason that's even a thing is because it's a type of racing that's easy to get into and doesn't require much investment.

Actually you are 100% wrong about drag racing. Anyone can make it a hobby, sure. What your being ignorant on is the fact that it takes little investment. A top fuel engine costs $15,000 each run. Not to mention each engine costs six figures to build. Also, its easy to spend six figures building a drag car at home. This right here, shows you have no clue what you are even talking about.  

"It's not safety, it's safety and emissions".

That's basically what you just said in a nutshell. Jesus Christ...

Uh, yeah, that is what I said. Again, we have safety and emissions standards here, which you should know about in Europe considering Volkswagen and all. After 10 years, cars are DOT exempts and after 15 they are EPA exempt hints the 25 year rule. 

They're also the reason you have automobiles to begin with, not to mention countless innovations for them throughout the years. What contribution did Chrysler ever make to the car industry as a whole, aside from making poor business decisions, lowering the standards for everybody and getting bailed out by the government?

So what? What does Mercedes building the first car have to do with anything? They caused the 25 year rule which is what we are talking about. Right because the SRT brand, which put high perforamce cars back on the map, is not one accomplishment right? The Viper isn't one either? The Demon being the first production car to go 9 seconds in a 1/4 mile? 

So California isn't part of the US now? Well, that sounds like a well oiled machine.

Where did I say that? I said they started the emissions standards we have now. Again, you live in Europe, you should know what smog is considering Volkswagen and all. 

That you suffer of blind patriotism and you're in denial. You just did it again.

You, yet again, proved nothing. You claim I suffer from "blind patriotism" yet have not shown me how I have, you just say I do. I'm also sorry my patriotism offends you. Do you need a safe space?  

Exactly, which is why the Challenger Demon would lose horribly.

You yet again showed your ignorance. Do you not know how fast a 9 second car is? You will be spending more in upgrading the RB26DETT compared to what the Demon costs. A 9 second car is not cheap to build. 

How about the fact that first gen Diablo's used regular car batteries and didn't have anything in place to ensure that they didn't die after a few weeks? How about the fact that the hydraulics on the doors weren't weather-proof at all and gave out in a matter of months? Or the fact that they did not feature any kind of adjustable seats and you had to drive with your right hand on the shifter or else you risked hitting it with your elbow? You want more?

So you call out the first gens that had design flaws yet, you dont praise the second gens? You realize that 1st generation cars are usually filled with design flaws that are usually fixed in the next generation right? 

I must point something in your response to @HazzardOutlaw

"It also depends on if the driver has a clue on how to race his car or not. So it's not only the car you have to beat but the driver also."

Yet, Europe isnt offering stick shift models on most of their cars. Porsche, Lamborghini, Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari,  etc all offer dual clutch transmissions, no manual gearbox. Look at all of Europe before judging the US on stick shifts.  

Except Mexicans aren't a problem for us, Syrian refugees are. And it's about to get worse courtesy of the insecure control freak you handed the nuke button to.

Thanks for that, by the way.

Right, because hes done so much harm to poor old you guys over there right? Syrian refugees are your problem because your leaders let them in, not us. Not our fault most of EU has open borders. At least our country is doing something about illegal immigration and trying to keep it in check

Now, i will point out somethings you said to @BLVD69

No he didn't. He's just doing the same thing he's been doing ever since he got triggered by my comment on the Challenger Demon, pounding his chest and yelling "We are the best at everything!" and "You hate America!" as Americans always like to do.

I didnt get triggered to your comment regarding the Dodge Demon comment. You are sit there totally dogging on the fact that Chrysler built a 9 second production car, saying its not an accomplishment yet you want to sit there and say build a car to go fast around a road track is. That is you being biased. There are two different car cultures here. We like seeing cars go fast in a straight line (its more exciting) and we also have NASCAR (Which I am not a huge fan of). Also, not all Americans do what you jsut said we did. We are just doing it towards you.

Probably because you always blow your top and take it personally whenever someone criticizes anything from America.

Not true. You are just being ignorant and its annoying us. 

I'm already familiar with your import laws. 

Obviously not because you would have known the reasons behind why we do what we do. What you can not seem to wrap around your head is the fact that we have specific rules that are signed in, are they a little ridiculous? Yeah, maybe but those are our rules. There is also a rule that exempts the law written and that is the 25 year rule. Just because you guys do not car who drives what in EU does not mean we should not. 

@mrtun3r

[Xenophobic comments removed - CM]

I've locked this thread as it has descended into bickering and xenophobic comments.