Impossible to get gold on all Prestige events!!!

@Also09 and Zerathel: You are not 100% right my friends. EA_Tom as "community manager" whatever that means is obliged to give more feedback to the CUSTOMERS and to keep them at least calm if they are not going to change anything, and not only give our feedbacks to the developers. From what I see EA_Tom is only receiving some money from EA without doing anything for the gamers. At least that's what I see. I will not mention that the way of his replies is let's say arrogant. Practically he says "Yeah I see that all of you have problems but we won't do anything". That's why I keep joking with this guy. He continues to be arrogant when he says "i don't write here because I don't have anything new to write". Noooo your job as COMMUNITY MANAGER is to give feedback every day in such discussed topics.

@Straatford87: I'm very disappointed with you. You didn't like my previous post....come on man I was so much hoping about this :D I still believe in you. Find the post and click Like please :D:D:D

About the harassments and the bad language in some of the posts....You really don't understand that everything is provoked by your company and the unbelieveable trophies you made, do you? So if you see here harassments, cursing, bad language and so on you should BLAME YOURSELF AND YOUR COMPANY and not the gamers. If you check the thread you will see that at the beginning YOUR CUSTOMERS were not so angry. They are getting angry because THEY ARE NOT HEARD. I'm writing the important parts of what I write in capital letters just for you to understand what exactly is important for your customers because i'm not sure that you understand where this attitude will lead you and your company. From your last post which was not less arrogant than the first one I see that I will NO LONGER BE YOUR CUSTOMER. Have you passed the information how many people will not buy EA games anymore to the developers? I doubt it. Just as another free tip from me. Don't forget that the people in this forum are PAYING YOUR SALARY. If you don't have people playing your games there WILL BE NO EA AND NO EA_TOM. You really don't get it do you?

Hey EA_Tom,

I hope that you see what Dini wrote. Her opinion shows exactly what I also think. I'm sure that you didn't again understand what she says but still I want to emphasize that your trophy was NO FUN AT ALL (if you want to know why I write in capitals here check my last post lol). If that was your goal you achieve it. Battlefield was my favorite FPS (over 400 hours on it and 100% trophy achievement) and believe me I won't buy the new one.

@Dini-400 : Really want to congratulate you on what you wrote. Your English is perfect so you don't have to worry about it 🙂 If you are writing articles for some magazines please continue to tell everyone what EA does. They really don't deserve to be on the market with this attitude to the people who are paying their salaries.

I agree with Dini beside what a pleasure is did this hard when people didn't make choice when You think about how many people lost few years hard work to keep own profile and spent a lot money? In name what they have to lose what they did? What they did bad to You? Always support You bought every DLC  and this is for Your thanks for them? Beside who tested this DLC because i think that no one because someone wrote that was passing and release this DLC. I am 100% that even developer who did is not able do this. So if even guy who did this not even able reach all gold why he released something? Where is logic with this? Because i don't see any logic and this guy know nothing about reasonable hard. This was programmed for over and over restarting until maybe You got one chance with this on 100 attempts but players is too sometimes exhausted to use this chance and once again have to sacriface a lot time to do this when know that can do this when is not too much traffic. If this will be depends from skill I understand but this depends from luck, makes only frustration and after did 1 of 41 gold think yes I did, left 40 (or less) to fight with the same my god...Got a lot quit rage,makes a lot frustration and not even fun. Why i have to be proud with this? If this game was in the beginning hard i can understand because this was my choice i decided check my skills, and want learn something new to be better and got better skills. But tell me guys what learn in this guys. Sorry but drift I learned in Hot Porsuit and used this only difference was that I often turn left and right but rule was the same what I learned erlier. Now understand what is wrong? And not buy any game from You if this not fixed because in short time You did:

1. Released DLC, broke game and did nothing

2. Support EA/Ghost did nothing not even got respond which means this is disrespectufll customers.

3. Did the same with NFS, Battlefield and did nothing. Sorry but I will not sacriface my hard job on this profile who spent a lot money because someone can't think and do reasonable hard.

4. Once again proofed us that customers threat give us money and get lost. Never of course told us this but Your action told us very clearly. 

5. Lost customers who supported a lot years including me who bought a lot games. I was with You from beginning until now because were too much actions that can hold this more and better is avoid Your games.

6. Lost also trust who is very important because we dont need advertisment because we always bought Your game in blind and told this is EA and this must be good if not propably next game will be better. We hold a lot with You even not complain that Undercover was bad, Rivals also wasn't good but never complain on You. 

7. Hardcoore gamers is more important 2% than others. Ok so 2% will buy Your games and we will see how You will be smart because instead listening players read something constructive do something. You are international company and hold this ok. So hold this but count that every year lost milion dollars in every game or more. So count how many money will You lost and THIS TIME ADVERTISMENT THAT YOU LISTEN PLAYERS NOT HELP YOU BECAUSE USED THIS FEW YEARS EARLIER. WE EVEN DIDN'T NEEDED THIS BUT REMEMBER

Bravo only can say bravo, closed support franchise game who don't have even year who will believe that in new NFS and others game will not the same. Franchise game should be more supported than usual game. You killed Yourselft with Your behaviour and this 

Zera

I'm just writing here to let the developers see that there is even more people angry/sad with this new DLC trophies (despite of the speedlist mode is great). I don't have anything more to add at this post that has not been said before, just showing them that the are not only a couple of users mad with this trophy. Maybe we should run some kind of initiative like collecting signatures on change.org (we could share the page through all trophy/achievment communities).

Besides this, I'm always a day1 buyer, I buy the games when they're released so I never can see trophies from future DLC (but trophy lists influence what I buy, like The Elder Scrolls Online). The original difficult of NFS and it's trophies is totally incoherent with this last DLC, and I'm pretty sure that if I would have known this from the beginning, the game would still be in the store and not in my collection. With the next game of EA will not happen again, I won't buy a game until it has all DLCs released (and for sure the game will be in much lower price) and also won't buy the next game of Ghost for protest until this trophy isn't fixed. If you fix it I will change my mind and surely buy the next NFS game.

And concluding, a month ago more or less, you were really proud putting posts on Facebook and Twitter accounts of NFS telling you listened the community. We can now see how true it is.

Thanks for reading me, hoping that Ghost Games also reads it and listens to us. 

I have been a achievement/trophy hunter since the Xbox 360, trying to get 100% on all my games. I am a completionist and a perfectionist. I have a bit of OCD aswell, when it comes to trophies. I have 100% on all of my other games, and I had 100% on this too, until this DLC came out.

I have finished both hard games and easy games in the past. I have done some really hard trophies aswell, and I like the challenge. But this DLC for Need for Speed must be the worst I have ever played. The game was easy, the trophies was easy, even the DLC trophies before this was doable. I cant for the life of me understand why this had to be done? The times for gold are just insane. Its almost impossible to get gold when all the bugs, traffic, online gamers and objects are all against you. Its just damn cheap. You have to spend not hours, but an INSANE amount of time to get gold times, and only with luck is this possible. Not skills. LUCK. What kind of prestige challenge is this, when its based on luck? I cant understand how developers just release stuff, without testing it first. How was this approved? Must have been the laziest attempt I have seen in a long time. This was a very shameful thing to do to your fans and supporters.

And now there is over hundreds of people complaining and you just ignore this? This DLC is broken, and needs to be fixed. How can you guys do nothing? There is still time to fix this. I am so angry that I cant 100% this game, because you guys released a DLC with impossible times, thats both broken and based on luck. Because of you, as of now, my trophy list is imcomplete. I will never buy a Need for Speed or Ghost game again, if this doenst get fixed. This is just shameful to do to your fans. The game had easy trophies all the way, why would you just change this with the last DLC? Its like a "screw you" for all the trophy hunters. A disgrace.

@Dini-400 perfectly written Dini.  100% agree with what you wrote

@Aslancus

Personally I'd say it's a good thing that your 100% has been ruined. Confining yourself to playing games that you're able to complete means you're missing out, for better or worse. Now that this has been forced upon you, you may be able to get over that compulsion and enjoy more games without having to worry whether they're too difficult to play.

If these prestige events were part of the game from the start you may have never even considered playing Need for Speed. Ignoring the fact that you're unhappy with how things have turned out now, would that have been a good thing?

Plus, it's always the risk when playing games while they're still being supported with new content. It's happened here and I'm sure it'll happen again at some point as DLC is more prevalent than ever. At least they didn't add a broken and literally unachievable trophy before calling it a day. There's always that, I guess.

@Also09

The difference between this and the Microsoft thing was that it was a decision that negatively affected everyone. It took away freedoms that previous consoles offered, threatened to ruin businesses and gave Microsoft total control over game pricing. It was huge and would've changed the gaming industry as we knew it, if people had sat by and let it go ahead.

This is just vocal minority of less than a hundred people who are/were annoyed they lost their 100% and will probably all be buying the next Need for Speed regardless. The situations can't be compared so there's nothing EA can really take from that.

The NFS community and gamers as a whole would probably shrug this thread off and wonder why people are getting so worked up over optional content.

@Shadiochao

Few people are happy with this DLC. About that all buy propably new NFS. Want bet that i will not buy and others? Why i know this? Because i talk with them everyday give them advice but environment in this game is buggy and can't do this after practice a lot. So don't tell * that we will propably buy because I WILL NOT BUY UNTIL THIS WILL FIX!!!JOKES ALREADY DONE WHEN WE SAW HOW EA GHOST GAMES LISTEN PLAYERS. WROTE ABOUT NERF PRESTIGE BEFORE CLOSED SO THEY KNEW THAT THIS IS PROBLEM, EA KNEW IN THE SAME DAY WHEN DLC WAS RELEASED AND DID NOTHING. SO IF THEY DON'T LISTEN PLAYERS WE DON'T BUY THEIR GAMES. THIS IS OBVIOUS SITUATION FOR ALL.  THIS WAS LAST TIME WHEN PEOPLE CAN FORGOT BECAUSE SITUATION IS STILL REPEAT BUT FINALLY WE DECIDED SAY STOP WE DON' T AGREE WITH THIS. CAN DO THIS ONCE, TWICE BUT NOT OVERTIME BECAUSE EA THINK THAT CAN DO THIS. NO THEY CAN'T WE PROOVED THIS WITH NOT BUYING ME CATALYST. 

Do You think that our statement will change? No. Nothing will change because like someone wise said this is a little the same situation what did Microsoft in the beginning and after write a lot negative comment they decided change mind. This is the same and I, my friends don't change mind. Look people did this trophy not only You and still post that this shouldn't be change. About next arguments that will be Prestige Mode in the beginning and we will propably buy this game.  Yes propably yes but this hard be reasonable and not stupid like is now and even if they do this in the beginning be topics that behaviour AI is stupid,bugs etc like is now. What was changed?Nothing because the same statement is the same. About doing Prestige Mode only two cars You are able do this because others cars can't compare and when we see movie this seems easy. Really? Choosed others cars and couldn't even do this silver medal because this is a lot harder way then two preferable cars in my opinion only options. 

Another example:

"Players deserve for free DLC" - Big adertisment EA GHost

If they want do this and others in cheap way DLC for free, i don't want any DLC from them because i didn't deserve play game and getting frustrated, nerves, doing quit rage, fighting with bugs. 

Zera

Unfortunately, I think you can now assume that this will not be changed.  Too many people (46 on psnprofiles alone) have invested the time and struggled through to gold all 41 events.  If you want the trophy you going to have to spend hours and hours to get it.

You can see here... http://psnprofiles.com/trophy/4003-Need-for-Speed/45-Gold-Plated 

There a people paying other people to get the trophy for them too.  

@Also09

Most of the changes I see people asking for isn't fixing glitches. It's directly making the trophy easier by lowering the requirements and such.

Of all the things you listed, only the game adding extra time would truly be a glitch. Though I'm not sure that's could be fixed because of the always-online nature of the game and latency. Fixing that would be fine, if possible. In the meantime, playing in a solo session seems to alleviate the problem slightly. At its worst I would get less than 0.50 added to my times.

As for the other stuff, that's trying to make the achievement easier just because you don't agree with how it is.

The reason only three or four cars are the best for the golds is because they are literally the best. If it was balanced around inferior cars, everyone would still use the best cars anyway to get that extra boost. The scores would simply be lower as a consequence.

The time for using cars of your choice was in the base game. Prestige is all about maxing your performance with as little compromise as possible. As such, features like tuning and manual  which you could've ignored until now are encouraged, though I only ever used manual for drifts. Automatic is fine for races and a much better player than I could probably even make it work for drifts.

But yes, I'd say everyone actively angry about prestige cares about the achievement/trophy. Why else would someone get annoyed by it? It's extra content added for those who push themselves to excel at the game, and we all know that was something the game was missing until this update. It's a selection of 41 events you've already played with no changes besides the score requirements so there's nothing new you're missing out on by not playing it. If you don't want that then you can ignore it, and I'm sure that's what Ghost Games expected people to do when they added it. I don't think there's even as little as a livery or car part as a reward.

Dying in one hit on Uncharted or Call of Duty isn't exactly balanced but it's there for people who want to experience a ridiculous challenge. There are also trophies for both of those things. Not every game mode or trophy should be accessible to everyone even if some may call that unfair.

I will say you should get the achievement or let it go. Excluding the time addition thing, all the other stuff like traffic is just a part of Need for Speed. It's not Forza or GT and you shouldn't expect it to follow the same rules they and other track racers do. In Need for Speed you have to deal with the traffic and other racers and I'm pretty sure it's been that way since the start.

Also, I'm not sure why anyone but Microsoft and video game publishers could've actually been happy about what they had planned. It was the least consumer-friendly set of changes they could've made and it's a wonder that it actually made it out of a meeting room. There was absolutely nothing in blocking used games that benefited us, only them. But I guess it affected more people than not and some weird people were just indifferent.

Edit: I'm not sure about Xbox One but PS4 trophies can't be hacked.

@Zerathel

Most people on this thread are against the trophy. Though that's not because the world's in agreement. It's because it's on a rather empty forum that has been linked to on other sites asking for support. You were only ever going to get other supporters who cared enough to click the link, excluding me.

And to be honest, I'm not even sure this is in the correct forum. Wanting gameplay changes in the DLC isn't really a technical issue, it's feedback.

I feel confident saying that at least half of the people who claimed they won't get the next NFS because of this will lose interest when their threats amount to nothing and buy it anyway. It's like this image http://i.imgur.com/MLZ0bMu.png full of supposed  MW2 boycotters. It's their only bargaining tool, and likely not as strong as their desire to play the next Need for Speed. It's easy to say you won't play the next one before knowing anything about it.

Read once again post Dini. She write everything about this and not only she that think. Also I will not buy if i will know something because if someone don't care about customers (this is not first time screw job with something) I will not buy game. I am with them sorry but don't understand what it means lose few years hard work spent a lot moeny because few peoples wanted ridiculous challenge sorry not even wanted they did because in very cheap way. And after this i will change mind? Sorry but NO!!! Don't buy about boycotting game. I am not suprised with this. This is fall EA and what did. Where is fall? In our side? We didn't nothing against this company. How many times aware that this situation can happen? Many and right now is poor EA. Yes is really poor EA, what a stupid customer I am that won't buy any game from EA because I didn't enough supported and the same did EA Ghost Games. I should be silence and thank that EA did stupid DLC and broke game.

And is one reason why shoudl avoid game. Never saw earlier that Franchise game is supported less than year. LESS THAN YEAR!!!THIS IS JOKE!!!!

Zera

For a game with no paid DLC or microtransactions, the amount of post-launch support it got was pretty good.

Bugs AND time addition? I acknowledged the time addition as the only bug, and if you can somehow say that traffic being present and being encouraged to use manual are examples of the game working incorrectly then I guess we are done.

So buy next game from EA. Ok thank You for informations and present points why.. For me personally don't have any strong arguments to convince me to change mind. Propably no one and about that 50% will buy new NFS can only say. We will see who is right. I am done also an would like admit that think selfish and find on strenght any aguments only save this statement.  Also don't read with understand so our conversation is done. 

This is example how our conversation look.

Game has free dlc and dont get microtransaction - arguments You

Game paid 50 dollar, support less than years, did DLC who screw hard job players and also did nothing when topic was released!!!  my arguments

Now see what talk is with You? I got list a lot bugs, and You find on strenght arguments and this is our conversation. Even defend EA is poor because what You gonna defends? Threat without respect customers, threat when EA Ghost did nothing when knew that screw job, threat that instead fix mess did nothing? . 

EA_TOM failed big time on this, what an idiot he is, and he's scared to post in here, EA staff, losers till the end, money grabbing idiots. NFS 2017 will also be a joke like this one.