Impossible to get gold on all Prestige events!!!
please change the time requirements for gold its impossible to do!
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What's crazy is that peoplea have been voicing their concerns since Day 1. 2 months later, everyone is still complaining, and Ghost Games whose clearly know by now that gamers are strongly against it, refuse to do something. Remember when Microsoft made a new anti used games policy for their Xbox One ? It turned to ** . But they've quickly backtracked. Maybe you guys should learn from Microsoft.
Personally I'd say it's a good thing that your 100% has been ruined. Confining yourself to playing games that you're able to complete means you're missing out, for better or worse. Now that this has been forced upon you, you may be able to get over that compulsion and enjoy more games without having to worry whether they're too difficult to play.
If these prestige events were part of the game from the start you may have never even considered playing Need for Speed. Ignoring the fact that you're unhappy with how things have turned out now, would that have been a good thing?
Plus, it's always the risk when playing games while they're still being supported with new content. It's happened here and I'm sure it'll happen again at some point as DLC is more prevalent than ever. At least they didn't add a broken and literally unachievable trophy before calling it a day. There's always that, I guess.
The difference between this and the Microsoft thing was that it was a decision that negatively affected everyone. It took away freedoms that previous consoles offered, threatened to ruin businesses and gave Microsoft total control over game pricing. It was huge and would've changed the gaming industry as we knew it, if people had sat by and let it go ahead.
This is just vocal minority of less than a hundred people who are/were annoyed they lost their 100% and will probably all be buying the next Need for Speed regardless. The situations can't be compared so there's nothing EA can really take from that.
The NFS community and gamers as a whole would probably shrug this thread off and wonder why people are getting so worked up over optional content.
- @Shadiochao, I really see your point but you seem to mix up 2 things which are
1) The achievements
2) The bugs of this game
You seem to think that we want the achievement difficulty to be toned down. Which is true. But the real problem reside in the inconsistencies that this DLC has put to light. I'm pretty sure that by now you know damn well what the problema are, but in case you don't know or forgot what @Zerathel has been showing all along, here they are.
- Cars only seem to care more of roaming on you than driving
- Random cars in the street (Trucks, etc)
- Random AI cars coming up from the otherside to slam into you
- Only 3-4 cars to this day are able to do the job
- Automatic is no longuer useful players are forced to use manual when the whole game was based on automatic. The new update came out and gave us this possibility then this update forces us to use that regardless of we like manual or not
- Random glitches happen (Sometimes the cars just don't drive at the start somehow then you lucky)
- Time being add to your score... up to 3 seconds (Happened to me 2 seconds got added up)
I recall you saying "Who said thay achievements couldn't be luck based ?" If something is luck based, then you shouldn't have to work your way to go through it, you could just push your luck to the max. This is not what none of the peoples that has it did tho. They had to rage, scream, sweats and tears were drop, and all that just for this. I can really see your point now I'm asking you to see mine. What about the list I gave you, does it makes sense to you that time is being added ? If you say yes, Ill take for granted that this debate is over. - @Shadiochao also, when Microsoft made those modifications, it didn't affect 100% of the peoples. Look on the internet, lots of peoples were happy about it. But here we are, because the majority wanted some change. It dosen't mean that we were right at all, they only followed the majority. Now in this case, if we are a minority which we are not if you look on TA, TT, Playstation Magazine UK, Xbox Forums too, Angry Joe Youtube, you can see that this update has dissapointed a lot of fans of the serie. However, if they do fox those bugs that ive listed, because look at the list again and tell me I'm delusionnal Ill end the debate. But if you see that I'm right, then know that those bugs affect a lot of communities. Otherwise why there would be 32 pages, why ? @Zerathel, @M1ke @Demi @Everybody, I could list you easily a hundread of peoplea hoping for some change. Again, if you want it to stay this way cause you done it and don't want it to be more realistic for others, then I'm done debating about it.
- Another thing, I don't care about not having this achievement, I have a life, some friends, a wife. Like this achievement is nothing to "ME" as a person. But someone must say out loud what everyone thinks in their head.I know I have been very rude in my previous posts and I apologize for that. But now I'm trying to tell it like it is. And this ia exactly what it is : A DLC that brought out all the inconsistencies of the game while forcing the player to be successful in an environnement that is not fitted for the achievement itself. What I'm saying is : Don't make a Forza / Gran Turismo Achievement type when you're not capable of putting the player into a similaire environnement or at least fix the bugs before doing so. Because right now it is untolerable.
- Also you know, saying "Get the achievement or let it go" will not fix any of the current bugs that's on it. So if at least they fix those glitches, then we might talk about doing it right ? Tilt then, telling me to try is easy, but what about Ghost Games when the community as a whole is telling them to fix it ? I'm hoping Ill get some constructive answers about the glitches that @Zerathel and me have been listing for weeks now.
Few people are happy with this DLC. About that all buy propably new NFS. Want bet that i will not buy and others? Why i know this? Because i talk with them everyday give them advice but environment in this game is buggy and can't do this after practice a lot. So don't tell * that we will propably buy because I WILL NOT BUY UNTIL THIS WILL FIX!!!JOKES ALREADY DONE WHEN WE SAW HOW EA GHOST GAMES LISTEN PLAYERS. WROTE ABOUT NERF PRESTIGE BEFORE CLOSED SO THEY KNEW THAT THIS IS PROBLEM, EA KNEW IN THE SAME DAY WHEN DLC WAS RELEASED AND DID NOTHING. SO IF THEY DON'T LISTEN PLAYERS WE DON'T BUY THEIR GAMES. THIS IS OBVIOUS SITUATION FOR ALL. THIS WAS LAST TIME WHEN PEOPLE CAN FORGOT BECAUSE SITUATION IS STILL REPEAT BUT FINALLY WE DECIDED SAY STOP WE DON' T AGREE WITH THIS. CAN DO THIS ONCE, TWICE BUT NOT OVERTIME BECAUSE EA THINK THAT CAN DO THIS. NO THEY CAN'T WE PROOVED THIS WITH NOT BUYING ME CATALYST.
Do You think that our statement will change? No. Nothing will change because like someone wise said this is a little the same situation what did Microsoft in the beginning and after write a lot negative comment they decided change mind. This is the same and I, my friends don't change mind. Look people did this trophy not only You and still post that this shouldn't be change. About next arguments that will be Prestige Mode in the beginning and we will propably buy this game. Yes propably yes but this hard be reasonable and not stupid like is now and even if they do this in the beginning be topics that behaviour AI is stupid,bugs etc like is now. What was changed?Nothing because the same statement is the same. About doing Prestige Mode only two cars You are able do this because others cars can't compare and when we see movie this seems easy. Really? Choosed others cars and couldn't even do this silver medal because this is a lot harder way then two preferable cars in my opinion only options.
Another example:
"Players deserve for free DLC" - Big adertisment EA GHost
If they want do this and others in cheap way DLC for free, i don't want any DLC from them because i didn't deserve play game and getting frustrated, nerves, doing quit rage, fighting with bugs.
Zera
Unfortunately, I think you can now assume that this will not be changed. Too many people (46 on psnprofiles alone) have invested the time and struggled through to gold all 41 events. If you want the trophy you going to have to spend hours and hours to get it.
- Sadly many peoples can hack this Trophy as you can see if you look at their card. Nice try cause Ive looked and where you see 41 ? Most importantly, does 41 peoples who got it complete mean that the bugs have to stay here ? Nop sorry buddy achievements does not make a game, fix the Glitches Ghost Games thank you.
You can see here... http://psnprofiles.com/trophy/4003-Need-for-Speed/45-Gold-Plated
There a people paying other people to get the trophy for them too.
Most of the changes I see people asking for isn't fixing glitches. It's directly making the trophy easier by lowering the requirements and such.
Of all the things you listed, only the game adding extra time would truly be a glitch. Though I'm not sure that's could be fixed because of the always-online nature of the game and latency. Fixing that would be fine, if possible. In the meantime, playing in a solo session seems to alleviate the problem slightly. At its worst I would get less than 0.50 added to my times.
As for the other stuff, that's trying to make the achievement easier just because you don't agree with how it is.
The reason only three or four cars are the best for the golds is because they are literally the best. If it was balanced around inferior cars, everyone would still use the best cars anyway to get that extra boost. The scores would simply be lower as a consequence.
The time for using cars of your choice was in the base game. Prestige is all about maxing your performance with as little compromise as possible. As such, features like tuning and manual which you could've ignored until now are encouraged, though I only ever used manual for drifts. Automatic is fine for races and a much better player than I could probably even make it work for drifts.
But yes, I'd say everyone actively angry about prestige cares about the achievement/trophy. Why else would someone get annoyed by it? It's extra content added for those who push themselves to excel at the game, and we all know that was something the game was missing until this update. It's a selection of 41 events you've already played with no changes besides the score requirements so there's nothing new you're missing out on by not playing it. If you don't want that then you can ignore it, and I'm sure that's what Ghost Games expected people to do when they added it. I don't think there's even as little as a livery or car part as a reward.
Dying in one hit on Uncharted or Call of Duty isn't exactly balanced but it's there for people who want to experience a ridiculous challenge. There are also trophies for both of those things. Not every game mode or trophy should be accessible to everyone even if some may call that unfair.
I will say you should get the achievement or let it go. Excluding the time addition thing, all the other stuff like traffic is just a part of Need for Speed. It's not Forza or GT and you shouldn't expect it to follow the same rules they and other track racers do. In Need for Speed you have to deal with the traffic and other racers and I'm pretty sure it's been that way since the start.
Also, I'm not sure why anyone but Microsoft and video game publishers could've actually been happy about what they had planned. It was the least consumer-friendly set of changes they could've made and it's a wonder that it actually made it out of a meeting room. There was absolutely nothing in blocking used games that benefited us, only them. But I guess it affected more people than not and some weird people were just indifferent.
Edit: I'm not sure about Xbox One but PS4 trophies can't be hacked.
Most people on this thread are against the trophy. Though that's not because the world's in agreement. It's because it's on a rather empty forum that has been linked to on other sites asking for support. You were only ever going to get other supporters who cared enough to click the link, excluding me.
And to be honest, I'm not even sure this is in the correct forum. Wanting gameplay changes in the DLC isn't really a technical issue, it's feedback.
I feel confident saying that at least half of the people who claimed they won't get the next NFS because of this will lose interest when their threats amount to nothing and buy it anyway. It's like this image http://i.imgur.com/MLZ0bMu.png full of supposed MW2 boycotters. It's their only bargaining tool, and likely not as strong as their desire to play the next Need for Speed. It's easy to say you won't play the next one before knowing anything about it.
Read once again post Dini. She write everything about this and not only she that think. Also I will not buy if i will know something because if someone don't care about customers (this is not first time screw job with something) I will not buy game. I am with them sorry but don't understand what it means lose few years hard work spent a lot moeny because few peoples wanted ridiculous challenge sorry not even wanted they did because in very cheap way. And after this i will change mind? Sorry but NO!!! Don't buy about boycotting game. I am not suprised with this. This is fall EA and what did. Where is fall? In our side? We didn't nothing against this company. How many times aware that this situation can happen? Many and right now is poor EA. Yes is really poor EA, what a stupid customer I am that won't buy any game from EA because I didn't enough supported and the same did EA Ghost Games. I should be silence and thank that EA did stupid DLC and broke game.
And is one reason why shoudl avoid game. Never saw earlier that Franchise game is supported less than year. LESS THAN YEAR!!!THIS IS JOKE!!!!
Zera
For a game with no paid DLC or microtransactions, the amount of post-launch support it got was pretty good.
- @Shadchao then I guess we are done on this debate. At least on my part. You said it yourself, if we take out all the bugs and the time addition, they'll make the game easier. You rather let them keep those in the game, so it's your point, Ill respect it. So I'm done.
Bugs AND time addition? I acknowledged the time addition as the only bug, and if you can somehow say that traffic being present and being encouraged to use manual are examples of the game working incorrectly then I guess we are done.
So buy next game from EA. Ok thank You for informations and present points why.. For me personally don't have any strong arguments to convince me to change mind. Propably no one and about that 50% will buy new NFS can only say. We will see who is right. I am done also an would like admit that think selfish and find on strenght any aguments only save this statement. Also don't read with understand so our conversation is done.
This is example how our conversation look.
Game has free dlc and dont get microtransaction - arguments You
Game paid 50 dollar, support less than years, did DLC who screw hard job players and also did nothing when topic was released!!! my arguments
Now see what talk is with You? I got list a lot bugs, and You find on strenght arguments and this is our conversation. Even defend EA is poor because what You gonna defends? Threat without respect customers, threat when EA Ghost did nothing when knew that screw job, threat that instead fix mess did nothing? .
EA_TOM failed big time on this, what an idiot he is, and he's scared to post in here, EA staff, losers till the end, money grabbing idiots. NFS 2017 will also be a joke like this one.
- @Zerathel my friend let it go. @Shadiochao of course millions of trucks laying down the road at totally randoms places happen everyday yes. Also, cars driving thr otherside to run into you too is normal, then alright. You can say that I'm wrong, but between those 35 pages, the truth has been spoken at multiple times, you chosed to ignored them because you don't have answer to everything, and I understand that. Now I'm really done. At the end of the day it is not our decision to make. If Ghost Games wants to keep the glitches in order to purposely make the achievement harder, then we can't debate that.
- On a side note, anyone wanna play Forza Horizon ? There is co-op! My GT: Ashe Arthur , My PSN : SteveCheraLouis 🙂
Come on EA, many people here are posting you something that ruins a really good game. I enjoyed NfS a lot but that kind of challenge, offers only frustration nothing more. There's no reason to put a challenge on a trophy. By saying that you're doing it for the hardcore gamers, you mean that you don't care for the majority of players that aren't that hardcore. It's some sort of insult I think imo. And btw what the meaning of the word hardcore? I've played many games in my life and I consider myself a hardcore gamer that splits his devotion to many games. Not just one. I don't think we ask something too bad for you.
By creating an update for the hardcore players, it doesn't mean they don't care about those who aren't hardcore. People who aren't hardcore have the rest of the game to play and something to aim towards with these new events. Nothing in the game really offers any level of challenge besides the prestige events, so with this it's a game that caters to all skill levels. Nobody should feel insulted by that, that's just paranoid.
Whether you think it's a good challenge or not is a different story. But I'd say more games should have something that really tests everything you've learned, even if the skill level is incredibly high.
And I've said it several times on this thread but it bears repeating: you're not forced to play these events for anything.
- Creating an update for the hardcore NFS gamer shouldn't involve any achievement since it directly alter the game for the achievements hunter too. But yeah, it's an update only for the hardcore NFS gamers I guess. I hope you guys have a good weekend 🙂
Paranoid is read Your post who talk about skill and know nothing about differene between skill and luck. This is paranoid...
Have you played Batman Arkham Knight? If not then I have to inform that there a trophy list that TRULY TESTS YOUR SKILLS, NOT YOUR LUCK. And I am to totally excited when I remember the times I achieved this insane difficult trophies because I really tried them with passion. This isn't happening here whether you like it or not. There are issues that purposely make you suffer during the process for achieving them.
- @Andrekreou don't worry my friend. He knows about those bugs, glitches, etc. But his opinion is made and won't be altered regardless what you saying. I'm proposing that we let this debate aside and focus on what's matter, which is get our voices heard!!!
You 're totally right. There's no reason to continue this conversation. But unfortunately I don't think that our voices will be heard!
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