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@Shadiochao "If I were him I would've locked this thread the moment it was confirmed it wouldn't be changing, since nothing can come out of any further discussion here." At least, this is something that I agree with. So EA Tom, can you lock this thread?
1) The thread should not be closed. What about those that needs to express how they feel about this game ? You might be suprised @Shadiochao but theres other peoples that never postes on it and with the amount of complains tilt this day if this one gets locked, another one will get open. Believe me on that. Thats common sense.
2) I don't know about you, but in the society that we living at the moment, if youre paid to do a job and you do it bad, after a certain amount of tries, you will get fired. Unless you're un employed it is obvious and logical, ESPECIALLY when you have experience in it. As far as I know, first The Run, then Rivals, now this, the 3 of them got major flaws that the community expected to see being fixed one day, but didn't happen. Why ? What's the reason ??
3) Customer service. The client is king you forgot ?
4) If I was the mod, I wouldn't lock the thread. I would ask Ghost Games to come and READ what the FANS are saying about it instead of locking it like nothing ever happened.
5) If I was you, I would refrain from commentating on this. It is obvious that your opinion is biased and that's why I won't debate with you. @Zerathel and I as plenty of others came at you plenty of time, exposed the problems of this game, and you still want them to keep the game the same. FINE BUDDY WE GET IT, can they fix the game now or is that not allowed ?.
6) It's funny but Ive seen that everytime we expose you real problem and glitches of this game, you stop answering and come back later on like nothing else. Be a man and accept the fact that the achievement that you worked so hard for is not ridiculously hard, just buggy that's all. Want a few examples of hard games since you might not know ? Devil May Cry, Lost Planet, Perfect Dark, and Virtua Tennis 3.
7) I'm sorry but this is a rant here. I won't stop tilt I get an answer. I want a clear answer from Ghosts Games that explains WHY they won't fix it, because Ive already talked with Microsoft, and they acknowledged that if was feasable so don't bother trying to save them with some fabricated answer.
8) Oh one more thing, I believe you said that those who decide not to play any other EA Games might miss out on other good games, well mate judging from their last 3 recent games, the sales are NOT too good and not everyone has played NFS. So I believe I'm not missing on anything seriously too good. NFS was the last chance I gave em, and they blew it. So bye bye.
- ApprovedAnonymous9 years ago
So why they should closed topic becaue end hope? I want see new post who maybe also write something smart. Smart not stupid like always write @Shadiochao.
- 9 years ago
Tom passed on everything that was said in this thread, at least for the first 20 pages or so. Ghost Games' response was that they were not planning to change anything as this was the final update. That was the answer they gave, yet many people still come here acting like they haven't replied at all because it wasn't the answer they wanted. There's no reason for this thread to exist anymore. You've said all there is to say, and now you're all just bashing the game, the developers and trying to scare them into releasing a patch by acting like 100 lost sales means something to one of the largest third-party game publishers in the world.
I already replied to a list of your supposed glitches. The thing was that you were counting crashing into traffic and requiring specific cars as the game not working correctly. It's not worth replying to nonsense like that multiple times when you're just trying to grasp at any straws you can to try and get the achievement toned down. Quite frankly I don't know what Zerathel is saying most of the time because nothing he says makes any sense, but I suspect he was doing the same.
Traffic is a staple of the Need for Speed series. If you keep crashing into it then get better at avoiding it. If there are situations where you can't avoid it, then get consistent at the rest of the track so it won't be as much of a problem. Dealing with the traffic is a requirement to master Need for Speed, and mastering Need for Speed is a requirement for getting golds in prestige. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve the achievement, simple as that.
So what if it needs a lot of luck to pull off the perfect run? At what point was a rule introduced that all achievements and trophies need to be based purely on skill? I don't remember requiring skill when I was grinding for bladestone on Demon's Souls, or hoping I'd find the pets I needed in Terraria. Did I start sending threatening messages to the developers because I thought trophies which incorporate luck are simply unacceptable? No, I accepted the unlock requirements for what they were and I unlocked them because I chose to. The more skill you have, the less luck you need, and that's the case with most things.
As for needing the best car, are you the kind of player who chooses to use weaker or unupgraded weapons in games when there's no reason to do so? Do you try to take on endgame content without bothering to equip armour or healing items, then complain that it's unfair? It doesn't make sense to offer that up as one of your problems as this is content which requires the best times, so you better come as best equipped to do so as possible.
I don't remember any of the other complaints, but I would imagine they were all just as valid. But did you voice any of these complaints to EA while they were actually still supporting the game? Or did you only decide the bugs that apparently plague this game only mattered when you couldn't finish prestige mode?
Hypothetically, if they removed literally all the luck-based stuff and the glitches, would you be in support of increasing the gold requirements? As a trade-off for consistency, you would now have to pull off an absolutely perfect run, as there's no longer anything in your way. Of course a lot of people here are already offended by the very suggestion, as they would probably start singing EA's praises if the achievement was changed to unlock automatically without actually having to race for it. But you seem to be the only person offering a thinly veiled argument of wanting the game changed for the better, with the achievement becoming easier as a side effect.
On a side note, if you would be okay with that, I suggest Trackmania Turbo. That offers both the consistency and high level of arcade time trials that you seem to want. Though I do warn you that if it's too hard for you, you won't be able to place the blame on anybody but yourself.
Finally, if you're getting so upset about not being able to unlock a little icon because you're not good enough at a game, you need to completely rethink why you play games in the first place. When faced with a game or achievement you won't enjoy, there is something you can do besides forcing yourself to slog through it or demanding it be changed to suit your personal tastes. That is simply not playing it and moving onto something else. Calling for people to lose their jobs because you don't have the patience for your own hobby is ludicrous. As is saying you won't buy their games anymore after they refused to bend over backwards for you, then admitting you don't like their games anyway. It doesn't sound like you were likely to be a long-term customer to begin with.
- ApprovedAnonymous9 years ago
Read previous post and saw movies with stupid things in this game later write because 50% doesn't make sense. You talk about customers, playing games and etc. Tell me who accepted that franchise game, one of the best series got support less than year? Propably 6 months on PS4 and 2 months on PC. This is normal and You are agree with this? Ok great decission. Others arguments about customers and etc don't even answer. Because in previous post wrote and some people also since when are customers and how were loyal with this company.
That's why still see that write stupid things. Also got article in german PS4 (Something like this who are very popular what bugs and what players have to fight). So this was tested by them nd if they not saw this propably article never show in this magazine. About sales also wrote and You still the same.
My god. Write something repeat a lot times so maybe look this from our sides how many times we have to need repeat You what is wrong and You still see nothing? One thing is good. If they remove traffic is clearly see that people aren't good or good because right now all depends from luck.
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And avoid traffic.If You are able avoid truck in Remastering and drift in the same time where is small place You are propably hero in this game because this is impossible. Just wrote this because You did advice about avoid traffic another great idea and the same is 7 event Robin. But You know better from people who even did and think the same like me and others.
- Also099 years agoNew Adventurer1) Ghost Games said they wouldn't put out any updates AFTER the backlash they received. And if it was before, then tell me why they had to say it. Scared of the public reaction ? Also, its all good to me if they don't put out any updates, I'm guessing fixing the countless bugs of the game is too much asking, right ?
2) So you're calling out @Zerathel ? I mean, you probably right, Playstation UK Magazine, Angry Joe, and other known personalities of the video game industry are all wrong about it ? Oh hold up, they never even play the Prestige Mode and still they talked about those bugs... So we all wrong mate ?
3) Traffic is a staple ? Ive been a NFS fan since the first one, the "traffic" as you call it really started at Underground because Hot Pursuit 2 didn't really had that. But you right tho, I wasen't a customer on the "long term" lol. Oh and by the way, I own probably 40 EA Games and I'm not scared to show them since you're not scared to define me without knowing me.
4) Once again I totally agree with you, Achievements or Trophies can be as easy as Avatar and hard as Perfect Dark Zero. So you meant to tell me since those bugs ... HOLD UP XD I just wanna say that after this post I will come back with another one very detailled about the bugs and you free to desagree as you please since you're biased as am I. For now, can those bugs be fixed or is it too much asking for ? What is that going to change in your personal life if the bugs gets fixed tell me ? Your ratio will drop for the achievement and your girlfriend will leave you ? Care to explain ? We want it fix we have the right to ask for that maybe I should start my own thread where I'm citing up the glitches or something ??
4) Best cars.. Best cars... My friend and I (SaidaiKanpeki #5 to unlock the achievement on TrueAchievements) tested out ALL the cars that were above this one to see if it would be easier... Actually we had the chance to test out the most recent Porsche and sadly for you, we've been able to prove that effectively, the cars are being dumbed dumb and somehow only one Porsche is able to go flawlessly on the races, even tho the most recent car has everything better than her little sister. Go test it out yourself and tell me about it 😉 We still have the 5 car modify by the way and we can film it you just have one word to say.
5) I like the fact that you try to nullify my argument by calling them unvalid but if Microsoft admits that it's kind of OD... Would you call them on that ? 🙂 Because as I recall, if something is broken, it should be fixed right ? I think we clear on that. And if they want to reduce to time for the trials, Im ALL UP FOR IT, as long as those bugs dissepear mate, they have nothing to do here. Also, Ive started this game February 12, eyes closed. If I knew what was to come, I wouldn't have played it.
6) Finally, let me repeat myself. I want Ghost Games to fix their glitches, bugs and inconsistencies. It might suprise you but Ive quite enjoyed the game, funny for casual, but hardcore will ser through the fun, and see all the bull*s. Now the achievement itself, it's another matter. Can they fix the game that they've made tho ? And also, I was playing EA Games since the Sega Genesis, Fifa 94 or 96. I dunno about you, but ive been a customer for long enough.
7) An argument between two biased peoples will amount to nothing. I give you the victory and will simply let it go from now on. With that being said, in the next hour I will post the glitch list, feel free to comment on it, but I simply won't to you. - Also099 years agoNew AdventurerYoure getting paid to do video games, but in this industry, they not forced to fix a broken product? Sound like a dream job of you ask me.
- ApprovedAnonymous9 years ago
@Also09 I am totally agree with you. But the problem here is that they won't do anything anyomre. That's why I said to closed the thread. I am sorry but there's no hope. That final DLC was a total f*** y** to all trophy hunters.
- ApprovedAnonymous9 years ago
Wow. If it so bad, i will not buy this game. Developers mistake...