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ivrognard
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5 years ago

Re: Its NFS:HEAT a dead game ?

@Ezrus Except the McLaren F1 Black Market Delivery, there is nothing else of note (the deluxe edition upgrade and the cheat DLC that shows the collectibles location do not count). You can find the DLC's under the extra-content tab (My Library, Need For Speed Heat, Extra Content)

The patching stopped, as a new game is in the works. The online... well, i understand that still has some players.

Right now, the best arcade racer on PC is Forza Horizon 4. The main problem with it being the fact that is only on the MS Store. Few arcade racers lately, but only FH4 is active and well supported. If it would be on a different platform, i would jump right on it, but i dislike MS Store, so...my loss, i guess?!

I hope that EA will take a hard look at the competition (Forza Horizon). FH4 offers a lot of customization, a LOT of cars, a big open world, seasons, day/night cycle, weather, avatar customization and a lot more. That's the monster to beat. Maybe EA will invest the money to make a game that would snatch the crown, but somehow i have doubts, as i am aware that a game to beat FH would cost a lot to develop. But... one can hope...

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  • GK3512's avatar
    GK3512
    5 years ago
    @ivrognard Another well supported racing game is The Crew 2.But that game is also online only and UPLAY exclusive.So no real single player mode.
  • TheRealJony's avatar
    TheRealJony
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    5 years ago

    @GK3512 wrote:
    Another well supported racing game is The Crew 2.But that game is also online only and UPLAY exclusive.So no real single player mode.

    Even though The Crew 2 is still being supported by Ubisoft, people that play the game regularly aren't happy with each subsequent updates since the end of Hot Shots era on November 2019.

    There have been nothing but negative stuff about TC2 since then.

    Also, people that play The Crew 2 regularly are very upset that cops are coming to the game (including one of my friends). These people play The Crew 2 because it has no cops.

    For me, I'm glad cops are coming to that game. It should've been in the game at launch in 2018.

    Regarding no single player mode in The Crew 2, technically there is single player but you need a constant internet connection even for single player (which is stupid in the first place).

    The Crew 2 can be purchased at Steam, Epic Games Store, or Uplay. So it's not really Uplay exclusive.

  • GK3512's avatar
    GK3512
    5 years ago
    @TheRealJony TC2 didn't add Police from the beginning because it wasn't a direct sequel or reimagination of TC1.It was more like FH series but focus more on stunts and races rather than car collection or history culture.TC2 can be a independent game without TC name for how few it has in common with the first one(maybe only part of car list and full America map)It doesn't have a real single player mode just like NFS2015.At least FH can be played without internet connection in the past(not sure about now) but NFS2015 and TC1/2 all online only.GAAS is a cancer in the industry as stated before.But it is so mainstream that almost every recent games(excluding indie games) are broken at launch and fixed step by step post-launch with GAAS.So TC NFS FH are all example of this bad direction.
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    TheRealJony
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    5 years ago

    @GK3512 wrote:
    TC2 didn't add Police from the beginning because it wasn't a direct sequel or reimagination of TC1

    It was a bad idea to do that in the first place when there has only been one The Crew game. The fanbase hasn't been established yet. The franchise is still "new".

    Unlike the NFS franchise when it has been around for 20+ years that it established the supercars / police fanbase and the customization / underground fanbase.


    @GK3512 wrote:
    It was more like FH series but focus more on stunts and races rather than car collection or history culture.

    The Crew 2 has 350+ vehicles to buy in the game so far, way more than the amount in The Crew 1.

    So The Crew 2 can also be seen as a car collecting game as well.


    @GK3512 wrote:
    It doesn't have a real single player mode just like NFS2015.

    What do you mean The Crew 2 doesn't have single player? It does have it, but it just requires a constant internet connection to even play single player.

    You're confusing single player with the always-online DRM requirement.

    An online-only game with a career / campaign mode can be played single player, even though it's stupid the game requires a constant internet connection.


    GK3512 wrote:
    But it is so mainstream that almost every recent games(excluding indie games) are broken at launch and fixed step by step post-launch with GAAS.So TC NFS FH are all example of this bad direction.

    This is why I don't approve the mentality of "Release it now, fix it later".

    A game that's released in a broken state is forever bad for me.

  • GK3512's avatar
    GK3512
    5 years ago
    @TheRealJony TC2 requires internet connection makes it an online only game.Since the first is also an online only game it's reasonable for Ivory Tower to continue the mode.A real singleplayer game can be played without internet connection alone just like Driver SanFrancisco-the Ubisoft racing game before TC1 was a thing.
  • TheRealJony's avatar
    TheRealJony
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    5 years ago

    @GK3512 wrote:
    A real singleplayer game can be played without internet connection alone just like Driver SanFrancisco-the Ubisoft racing game before TC1 was a thing.

    A real single player game can only be played alone with AIs, regardless whether it's online or offline.

    Single player means you play alone, even if you're playing online.

    An offline single player game can only be played offline and alone with AIs.

    You can twist the definition of "single player" all you want, but the true fact is a single player game means you play alone and only with AIs. It doesn't matter if it's online or offline.

    NFS Heat's single player can be played either online or offline.

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