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Ugh, why does everybody want the characters from Payback to return? They're awful. Tyler is just a Paul Walker knock-off that was mathematically perfected to be as dull as possible, Jess's entire character design pretty much screams "I was created by a feminist!" and Mac... well Mac is ok but that's only in contrast with the other two. The story is just a mixed bag of unnecessary drama, illogical behavior and cartoony villains.
@mrtun3rwrote:Ugh, why does everybody want the characters from Payback to return? They're awful. Tyler is just a Paul Walker knock-off that was mathematically perfected to be as dull as possible, Jess's entire character design pretty much screams "I was created by a feminist!" and Mac... well Mac is ok but that's only in contrast with the other two. The story is just a mixed bag of unnecessary drama, illogical behavior and cartoony villains.
I agree with your opinion of Tyler 100%.
I couldn't possibly disagree more with your opinion of Jess. Jess is a smart, sassy, strong, independent woman and that makes her sexy as all get-out. I guess some guys might be intimidated by that. I'm not sure exactly what you mean about being created by a feminist, but I can tell you this - she is quite flirtatious with the undercover guy she occasionally hauls around (I can't think of his name). Maybe some don't catch it because it's too subtle? Her personality has the most nuance of any character, and she is hands-down my favorite female NFS character ever. I loved her the minute she shows up in the prologue as the getaway driver and yells at the bank robbers not to bleed on her seats! LOL
I appreciate how they never give the remotest impression that Jess feels anything toward Tyler or Mac other than friendship and loyalty. Neither men are her type, and if they tried to hint at a romance it would just feel forced. Of course it wouldn't be essential to the story anyhow, so, again, I'm glad they didn't try to go down that path.
Mac is awesome as well. He has this laid back, zero F's given attitude, and the more arrogant someone is to him, the more he trolls them with humorous disrespect. Some of his lines in Speedcross are hilarious. Cliche'? Sometimes, but the lines are delivered with perfect comedic timing.
Jason Munroe (Barracuda): "They call me the Barracuda."
Mac: "Can I call you Barry?" - LOL Then he keeps calling him Barry from then on.
Munroe: >sarastic < "You must be proud."
Mac: >immediately retorts< "Not as much as my mum." LOL It's not even what he says but how he says it. His voice has this innocent, unassuming quality when he says it that totally pulls off the burn without sounding cliche.'
That's just a couple of examples and probably not even the best ones
- 8 years ago
Thanks for the Jackie Collins book club story.
If you're familiar with her spicy books of fictional love & romance novels.
You could easily see that jess is a drama queen in the game.
Regards
BLVD69
- Anonymous8 years ago
"I'm not sure exactly what you mean about being created by a feminist..."
Well let's start with the obvious: while she's far from being Sarah Ryder, she's not much to look at, in contrast to Tyler, Marcus, Rav and Mac whom all look like male models. Sound familiar? Then there's the fact that she acts unnecessarily tough and patronizing when talking to men but never with women, as feminists like to do. And while I'm not saying she should be flirting with every man that crossed her path (or at all) it does feel an awful lot like the writers put her in that position just so she can act like a stone cold b***h, something also heavily implied from Tyler's conversations with the Silver Six guy.
Taken separately these things might sound like I'm nitpicking, but together they paint a pretty clear picture.
"Mac is awesome as well. He has this laid back, zero F's given attitude, and the more arrogant someone is to him, the more he trolls them with humorous disrespect."
As a protagonist should be, there's way too much drama in this game. Only other NFS game that comes close is The Run, but at least that game went all the way.
The story in The Run starts with the protagonist getting cubed in a mob junkyard and consists mainly of him killing cops or getting shot at by the mafia with actual guns, not to mention the plot actually justifies the need to race. Whereas the villains in this game are almost cartoonishly stupid, they're made out to be this major crime syndicate yet they come up with plans like "blow up the protagonists house in front of him so he gets scared or "bait the protagonists with gold plated cars and place slow ticking time bombs on them" just so they can protect their street racing racket because apparently it brings in millions. Seriously?
- 8 years ago
@mrtun3rwrote:"I'm not sure exactly what you mean about being created by a feminist..."
Well let's start with the obvious: while she's far from being Sarah Ryder, she's not much to look at, in contrast to Tyler, Marcus, Rav and Mac whom all look like male models. Sound familiar? Then there's the fact that she acts unnecessarily tough and patronizing when talking to men but never with women, as feminists like to do. And while I'm not saying she should be flirting with every man that crossed her path (or at all) it does feel an awful lot like the writers put her in that position just so she can act like a stone cold *, something also heavily implied from Tyler's conversations with the Silver Six guy.
Taken separately these things might sound like I'm nitpicking, but together they paint a pretty clear picture.
"Mac is awesome as well. He has this laid back, zero F's given attitude, and the more arrogant someone is to him, the more he trolls them with humorous disrespect."
As a protagonist should be, there's way too much drama in this game. Only other NFS game that comes close is The Run, but at least that game went all the way.
The story in The Run starts with the protagonist getting cubed in a mob junkyard and consists mainly of him killing cops or getting shot at by the mafia with actual guns, not to mention the plot actually justifies the need to race. Whereas the villains in this game are almost cartoonishly stupid, they're made out to be this major crime syndicate yet they come up with plans like "blow up the protagonists house in front of him so he gets scared or "bait the protagonists with gold plated cars and place slow ticking time bombs on them" just so they can protect their street racing racket because apparently it brings in millions. Seriously?
Sorry man, I disagree about Jess's looks. She's cute, and I don't think her looks are "downgraded" in some way compared to the guys. Rachel in NFSU2 was old enough to be my mom, and Niki in Carbon looked like she was old enough to be my mom, and Mia from Most Wanted looked like a hooker. Jess has the most personality of any of them, and I would definitely want her on my team and as a friend.
I agree the story is cheesy. But how is it any different that Fast 'n' Furious? Who cares? It moves the progression along and gives us some cool cutscenes. I admit, I was put off by the initial reveal trailer for Payback, but now that I'm into it, I think it's great. I mean, if you didn't like the whole Mustang chase, Jess blasting out of the truck with the Regera, then I can't help you...
- 8 years ago
Jessica Madsen is the one who played her. I can see the resemblance . Very pretty .
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