Im a huge fan of the old NFS games like undergroud 1&2, mostwanted. Like alot of other fans, im waiting for a NFS that is worth buying.There is a very simple challange todo, but EA continues to make every new game less fun.A good need for Speed just has to have:-A huge range of cars and tuning-Good and balanced Races with no rubberband KI and fair payment-Freeroam mode alone and with friends, includes cops (with and without)-Offline mode*:-Lootcrates for Upgrades or any other random stuff-Allways on mode-story with boring and awkward movies.-awkward texts like "L.O.L"

Because a lot of their fans are kids and annoying people. They keep demanding stuff ignoring that this is a business, and a lot of decisions are thought out thoroughly before being made. They are doing what they think is right and beneficial to them, and they do try to listen to feedback occasionally.

@Tombadole 1. The very games you've mentioned as favorite in the series, have less cars than Payback. I do agree on the fact that tuning should be made in the old way (upgrading the part, not replacing a card). 2. Customization...Definitely needs a lot of work there. 3. Freeroam - we had that in NFSU 2, MW 2005, Carbon, Undercover, MW2012, RIvals and NFS 2015. None offered a truly satisfying experience (if you ever played the original TDU, you might know what i mean). The AI for cops should have the determination from NFS 3 and the tactics from MW2005, 4. Offline - i completely agree that we need a good offline. I loathe the concept of Mingle Player (SP with MP, where other players can get into your game and wreck it). I want SP to be SP and MP to be MP. Don't need a mix between the two. 5. Lootcrates - they can keep those, as long as they put cosmetics in those and nothing that would affect the actual gameplay. If someone wants to buy a decal/skin/whatever instead of farming it, i am fine with that. 6. Story....yeah, pretty much all the racers i've played had a mediocre story at best or no story at all. Let's face it: story is a pretext for us, not the pinnacle of the game. And compared with what we had in 2015, this is a tad better 7. Yeah, i can live without the "lol's", "rofl's" and other stuff that no one is using anymore. About tuning and customization: in our days is a lot harder to get what we had NFSU, NFSU2 and MW2005. Many tuning shops went down, the remaining ones are asking for a lot of money to appear in the game (the use of the name and likeness of those companies is a lot more expensive in our days, sadly) Payback does have some nice ideas, but i would have preferred to see the game in a longer development cycle, with a serious closed/public beta for the MP side. I confess that the rush to get out a game in any state it is, just to meet the set release date is beyond my power of comprehension. Sure, i understand that there are shareholders to be pleased, but releasing a game with problems hurts the company more than releasing it later, with most of the problems eliminated. That is my personal view, though.

They don't listen unless their stocks and wallets take a hit. The old nfs days are gone it's all about using the nfs title to make money for the company now not the quality of the product they put out

I dont know if they are not listening, but im very sad to get no feedback from EA.If you have some problem with the game and contact the service, they tell you to come here. But there is nearby no comments from EA stuf concerning problems. The most help comes from the community.You can find tonts of bug reports in this forum, but 90% are ignored and there are no comments from EA. What for the bug-part of this forum is existing? I have 2 sheets A4 with problems/bugs written down for payback. I dont spent the time to write it down here in the forum, because I know nobody care about.

well as more you talk about as bigger the chance anyway, in fact they don't have to answer here to fix bugs.also some bugs might be able to be fixed soon some will take time and some are too big to get fixed at all.i would still be interested in what bugs you noticed (if you can't abuse them in any way) tell us, also 2 A4 sides can be everthing depending on your font size :Dalso which bugs ruin the game expirience or can't be prevented ?the crash sequence on ramps mostly, the false reset to the track after crash which else ?for example you can mostly bypass the curb crash thing..i don't say these bugs are ok, but if you can bypass them its much less worse, which is important for me if i can live with them or not

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KGR84
8 years ago
I dont know if they are not listening, but im very sad to get no feedback from EA.

If you have some problem with the game and contact the service, they tell you to come here. But there is nearby no comments from EA stuf concerning problems. The most help comes from the community.

You can find tonts of bug reports in this forum, but 90% are ignored and there are no comments from EA. What for the bug-part of this forum is existing? I have 2 sheets A4 with problems/bugs written down for payback. I dont spent the time to write it down here in the forum, because I know nobody care about.
ln5aNeGuY
8 years ago
well as more you talk about as bigger the chance anyway, in fact they don't have to answer here to fix bugs.
also some bugs might be able to be fixed soon some will take time and some are too big to get fixed at all.
i would still be interested in what bugs you noticed (if you can't abuse them in any way) tell us, also 2 A4 sides can be everthing depending on your font size :D
also which bugs ruin the game expirience or can't be prevented ?
the crash sequence on ramps mostly, the false reset to the track after crash which else ?
for example you can mostly bypass the curb crash thing..
i don't say these bugs are ok, but if you can bypass them its much less worse, which is important for me if i can live with them or not
iNimblePenguin
8 years ago
Because a lot of their fans are kids and annoying people. They keep demanding stuff ignoring that this is a business, and a lot of decisions are thought out thoroughly before being made. They are doing what they think is right and beneficial to them, and they do try to listen to feedback occasionally.
XGCSith
8 years ago
@KGR84 Honestly, just because they do not respond does not mean they are not listening. If you look at previous patch notes they do listen. Many have brought up this issue with EA not responding to concerns but, they do honestly listen.
KGR84
8 years ago
@XGCSith

Yes thats correct, but I see taht nothing is changed. There are some problems which are solved but in my opinion thats not very much and not important problems.

And some problems I pointed out when the game was relased and that are problems which are realy not hard to prevent, but no answer and no solution till now.

In one thread I as usual user helped another player, and a EA MOD thanked me for. I sent him a pm and told him I have a long list with bugs and asked him if I can send it to him, or where it makes sense to send it ... no answer...

Sure not all bug from my list are first priority but thats bugs and when are they planning to solve it? When nobody is playing the game anymore?

Just look in the bug area and check by yurselfe which bugs are solved. Most of them arent!

That is what makes me desperatet, eaven if this bugs are not problems which make the game unplayable
XGCSith
8 years ago
 This is a list of everything from the last patch https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed/need-for-speed-payback/news/nfs-payback-dec-patch-notes. The only real bug I have seen lately is the one where the tires show through the fenders of really low cars. 
ln5aNeGuY
8 years ago
@TombadoleIf you're that big of a fan of those go and play those.. i mean games do change in many ways, even with this microtransaction bs, they won't change that too no matter what.
they also can't re-release ug1/2/MW2005 again and again, they wouldn't be the same also the game expirience you have today is different from back than.
a huge range of cars ? aren't 80ish cars not enough? tuning you can do that on so many ways, i prefer speedcards over 2005 tuning for example.
rubberband is the best solution you can have thats why they are using it, it depends how the rubberband is done, for example if the cpu drives infront of you without rubberband you might won't be able to catch on having to restart, or if you are first it might be youre miles ahead of the cpu.. both is worse than a rubberband imo.
freeroam will come so, maybe with cops too.
you can play payback offline ?
@XGCSith these optical bugs i don't care at all in comparision to other bugs.
- you crash randomly on ramps while your tires go through them
- you crash on most curbs depending on where you hit them, for no reason.
- you have fail respawns where you instantly hit a wall or fall to a cliff.
- checkpoints which don't get count especially in online mode.
- this netcode problem where you hit a player on his screen even if you don't do it on your screen.
- disconnects from time to time.
only to say a few which are all worse than some tires looking thru the body.
XGCSith
8 years ago
@ln5aNeGuY I have experienced the re-spawn issue and that is irritating. As far as the others, I have had no experience in. I do wish they made the checkpoints wider so you don't miss them but I can deal with that. The others may be an online multiplayer issue. Since I do not play online very often, I do not experience those.
ln5aNeGuY
8 years ago
@XGCSith no if the checkpoint thing would because you actually miss them so driving left or right it wouldn't be a problem.
the problem with these checkpoints is that it won't count if you drive directly thru them normally, the game just doesn't recognize it.
the difference is in singpleplayer you could restart the race, in multiplayer you might lose because of that.
the crash on ramps and curbs both do happen in singleplayer too.
disconnect and netcode thing are multiplayer issues right.
for comparison
checkpoint bug ~5% chance
crashing on ramps for no reason on some specific ramps 30-50%, in general not that often~5%
fail respawns idk i don't crash that often
disconnects maybe once every 5-10h gameplay ?
the netcode thing happens everytime you pass someone in a corner, so for example there is a corner you take it widely so i could pass you on the inside, if i do so and im close enough (~1 car wide ~3m) i won't touch you on my screen but i do on your screen, i can see how you get pushed for no reason.
Pair_Demons
8 years ago
If you don't have an decent gameplay experience why are you talking and inflict defence on EA? I see you often defend EA tactics and I'm pretty sure you are pointing to get EA attention. Meybe you should apply for an job to EA. (I think you are fit to defend them as a lawyer)