Requests for NHL 24
1. Stop making poke check the only means of effectively defending. Players won't use anything else if one mechanic is way better than other ways of defending. Reduce how effective poke checking is ag...
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@Sega 82mega I think that the game is made too much according to or for professional players, the joy of the game for ordinary players is missing. In my opinion, how to make a game for regular players is as follows:
1) online career mode with emphasis on realism.
2) to simplify the control, the average player is not very interested in the movement of the hockey stick, and similarly this should be controlled by the UI. I can think of some training that the player will remember as a function in the game.
3) A building game where goals are scored after pressure and not only from a 1x1 or 2x1 raid and the like.
1) online career mode with emphasis on realism.
2) to simplify the control, the average player is not very interested in the movement of the hockey stick, and similarly this should be controlled by the UI. I can think of some training that the player will remember as a function in the game.
3) A building game where goals are scored after pressure and not only from a 1x1 or 2x1 raid and the like.
I cannot stress this one enough. I really don't understand why it was taken out of the game. You can take an interference penalty when hitting a player that doesn't have the puck. However, you used to be able to trip and slash / high stick a player that doesn't have the puck.
I CONSTANTLY see players spamming poke check or stick lift through my computer players. Why does my opponent's stick just go through them like they're ghosts?
Players should be rewarded with proper defensive timing just like offense. Just panic spamming buttons doesn't show any sort of skill gap. This is the reason this franchise is failing. Long time players have been leaving more and more each year. Due to the skill gap. EA Sports keeps giving less experienced players easy ways to defend and score. When the game should be more skill focused.
EA_AljoCommunity Manager
If you have some video of this, please let me know. I'll pass it on to the team.
- @NihilistWolfe 👍
When I was a fool and played the game (just kidding), spamming was a huge part of the game, I think you could say that it was a skill gap in poke spamming, thoose who did it good and thoose who didnt do it good.
But thats not how I want a game to be, no type of spamming should be allowed.
The sayin "active stick" should not be mixed up with 'spamming', two diffrent things.
Spamming should never be accepted as a skill, its just a flaw that people learn to use as an 'easy way' to play defence. - @Sega82mega well in my opinion if they got rid of the auto poke check it make a huge difference on how people played defense
- EA_Aljo
@thegarden94 wrote:
@Sega82mega well in my opinion if they got rid of the auto poke check it make a huge difference on how people played defenseI don't mind auto pokes. Without them, I think it would be pretty tough to get a quick, accurate, poke off. It's fine when you're using DSS, but would be more challenging than necessary for those quick jabs at the puck since you can't really aim it in advance. Plus, this is a pretty basic move for a pro hockey player. Which, all the players in the game are and the idea is to replicate the real-world sport as much as possible. I think it's pretty easy to take a tripping call if you are truly spamming it. Also, if you're getting close enough to be poked, you need to protect the puck better and keep it as out of reach of defender's sticks as possible.
- @EA_Aljo
Whats wrong with the game being a little bit tough? No mather how you put it, it will still be equal for all.
If the idea is to "... replicate the real-world sport as much as possible"..
Then I suggest spam to go away.
Cuz that dosent look anything like the real world.
How does it even look? When real world players tryes to spam pokes.. 🙄🤔
Can Anyone show? 🤷♂️
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@thegarden94 wrote:
@Sega82megawell in my opinion if they got rid of the auto poke check it make a huge difference on how people played defenseI don't mind auto pokes. Without them, I think it would be pretty tough to get a quick, accurate, poke off. It's fine when you're using DSS, but would be more challenging than necessary for those quick jabs at the puck since you can't really aim it in advance. Plus, this is a pretty basic move for a pro hockey player. Which, all the players in the game are and the idea is to replicate the real-world sport as much as possible. I think it's pretty easy to take a tripping call if you are truly spamming it. Also, if you're getting close enough to be poked, you need to protect the puck better and keep it as out of reach of defender's sticks as possible.
All we are asking is to nerf the aim assist on the poke check. Especially when a player is not in a position to make an accurate poke check to begin with.
As it stands. Players get rewarded for poor defensive plays with poke check when they're player isn't even facing the puck. I have seen so many times a player not facing the play, do a no look poke check with pin point accuracy.
It doesn't happen quite as often in real life than it does in this game.
There is no punishment for poor defensive plays other than stick lift and hitting.
If you go to the top leader boards on competitive online versus. The top 100 players - maybe 10 of them average 10 of more hits a game. The vast majority only average 5 or less.
It speaks volumes when you provide a defensive mechanic to the game that trumps everything else. 99.9% of the community is not motivated to hit.
The only mode that works half decent is world of chel. You can build a defensive player. Where other modes it's a huge pain to get a player off the puck without using the over powered aim assist.
- EA_Aljo
I also average only a handful of hits normally. That's because hitting often takes you out of the play. I'd rather poke and raise my chances of a turnover. That doesn't mean I'm constantly spamming it. That gets you in trouble and there are times I'm guilty of it.
I'll keep an eye out for no look pokes. If you have any video, you're welcome to send it over.
- @NihilistWolfe See it's funny you asking for a nerf to aim assist on poke checks. There are other posts saying poke checks simply don't work and never hit the target. So it's pretty divided. As for me personally. I find they work work a little too well reaching across a body and some behind. But when you are in front or on the side of them with the puck I find the pokes to be rather disappointing as they don't always dislodge the puck how they probably should away from a skater.
I'd personally like something tuned where you can get slight contact and the puck is semi loose and other times where a well placed poke dislodges the puck a good amount of distance from the skater with the puck not allowing for a pick back up.
I'm also firmly for people LTing with speed to more often lose control of the puck because in some of those situations it would be very hard for even a pro to pull something crazy like that off. Heck make a gold on X-Factor that is on the dangler that allows for it to work more often. Give people a reason to use more than Playmakers and Puck Moving Dmen. - @KlariskraysNHL they definitely work way too well. It's very unrealistic.I thought it was great at release when you missed a poke you were left wildly out of position.
I like your idea of slight contact. We need better loose puck physics. - EA_Aljo
@SnizzBarDizz2oh wrote:
@KlariskraysNHL they definitely work way too well. It's very unrealistic.I thought it was great at release when you missed a poke you were left wildly out of position.
I like your idea of slight contact. We need better loose puck physics.To my knowledge, nothing actually changed with this. I think it's more likely that people adjusted to the slow down with poking.
- @EA_Aljo Of course it was people adapted. Remember early in the year it was defense was too hard and the poke changes ruined the game. Then people learned and adapted.
- EA_Aljo
Yeah. I definitely remember that. It happens every year. It takes a few weeks to adapt to the new gameplay. In this case, we've gotten used to timing our pokes better so the slow down from them is minimized.
Always ways around it, at least with 3v3 - The trick is to just stop poking entirely and focus on hitting since shot blocking and stuff doesn't really do much; With high enough stats you just break their legs every time.
On the flip side, you can just use a larger guy with L2 as an attacker and make the poke and smaller bumps useless.
This year eliminated most of the pointless spam that happened in years prior since there is a clear speed and control nerf when doing so. This "auto poke" only happens with the strange R3 click feature anyway, no? Much easier to use DSS and hold it there while sweepingAnd please EA include the ability to control multiple(all 32) teams in franchise mode! Thanks.
