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Moxrox84's avatar
Moxrox84
2 years ago

So EA...is there any reason to think '24 will look/play any different than '23?

Seriously...can we nip this in the bud?  Is '24 going to have any changes that will differentiate itself from '23?  I'm not talking about a couple of new automated animations that require no input to...
rsandersr47's avatar
rsandersr47
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Moxrox84 I agree, 23 was halfway to cross play.. you can't take 2 years for a AAA company to add cross play and that be one of the most focal areas of improvement. That being said I won't be surprised if it is. It's sad to see all the players that love this series but I just don't get the impression that the people working on it have any real passion for the game or maybe even the sport tbh. Just seems every sports title out there is soaring past this game.
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Sega82mega
2 years ago
EA is a AAA company but is our EA hockey game considering to be an trippel A title?

I dont know how it works, if every game that comes from a trippel A company becomes to be a trippel A game... 🤔

Becuase EA hockey dosent deserve to have that high demands, I mean when have they ever lived up to that.

Best, but also most difficult, would be to have non direct expectations and just take whats given.

But im sure when trailers and other info is startin to come, the hype and the expectations will follow.

EA is good at making a buzz about their own game, to build castles in the air and then have to explain themselves the whole year when things didnt become to be what everyone was expecting.

But would be fun to get a game were at least 50% of the people on this board was positive.

Mission impossible, EA tell me?.. 🙄😏
  • PlayoffError's avatar
    PlayoffError
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @Sega82mega As long as EA prices NHL like a 'AAA' game I think it's fair to expect 'AAA' quality from the game ( although what constitutes 'AAA' quality is a crapshoot these days ). Especially when they're asking that top-tier price on a yearly basis.
    • Sega82mega's avatar
      Sega82mega
      2 years ago

      @PlayoffError

      Same time, a game you get for 50% sale 2-3 months after release.

      I dont know, guess they wouldnt put a price on the game that didnt was good for business.

      But 1 hockey game out there worth any money is EA, puts us consumers in a corner, if you like hockey on video game, what else to do then pay up.... 🤑

      Edit; what actually constitutes 'AAA' quality'? Whats the rules? 

      • CleanHeart's avatar
        CleanHeart
        2 years ago

        Will it look or play different? Probably not. We can hope but I assume we get MAYBE the ability to have more function with crossplay but I'd assume most of the broken stuff sort of remains or it gets fixed but the new crossplay changes make more problems that will last. I doubt they will even bother pretending they spend another year 'tweaking' the LT ballerina stuff as every year it seems they say they worked to make it more realistic and it's always the same, I doubt hit bubbles will be any different, I doubt the WoC see's anything new including the unlockables. I assume the top X-Factors will remain the top X-Factors and if you play chel you will have to grind so you can get that truculence you wanted, the close quarters you wanted or the elite edges(or all three). AI goalies will float from being beasts on one shot stop and absolutely putrid in every other aspect. I assume human goalies get no better. I would actually love if they spend an entire game cycle just focusing on goalies. Probably need like 2 or 3 straight years like that. Working on AI controlled and human controlled. They need to spend some serious efforts getting the gameplay feeling much better for all positions and THEN hopefully they can come to some acceptance for what it is and move on to working on all the modes and stuff. Franchise needs love, BAP needs love. Offline players even though I'm not one of them need love.

  • NeonSkyline21's avatar
    NeonSkyline21
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Sega82megaWell I think it's fair to call EA's NHL series a AAA series considering it's a FULL priced game that ALSO has a full-on microtransaction-based mode in HUT. It's safe to assume that EA makes way more money from this game than they're willing to invest just judging from the number of devs and resources allocated to this game.

    So, AAA-level criticism is warranted, IMHO.

    With that aside, I think it's foolish to assume the game will look/play much different than it has the past 2 years. Things will be slightly adjusted so that the meta SLIGHTLY shifts, but that's all one should/could expect. 

    • Sega82mega's avatar
      Sega82mega
      2 years ago
      Some info I found out about triple A.

      "The term "AAA Games" is a classification used within the video gaming industry to signify high-budget, high-profile games that are typically produced and distributed by large, well-known publishers. These games often rank as “blockbusters” due to their extreme popularity."

      High budget EA hockey? You be the judge, but I dont think so.. Thats not how I have been learned.

      " AAA is the term to designate the games with the highest production and marketing budgets, usually priced at around $60. The terms AA, A, or B are not used to designate game budgets or pricing. Indie Games are those that are created without the financial support of a publisher. "

      Guess EA hockey qualify here, when it comes to the price, if $60 is correct.

      " How long does it take to make a AAA game?
      between 3 to 5 years
      But for games in the AAA category, it's a good assumption to say that they take something between 3 to 5 years to develop. This can be a lot more if the gameplay or assets need to be done from scratch, or if the assets are already there from the previous year (like they do with Call of Duty)."

      3-5 years.

      And I dont think NHL games can call themselves a 'blockbuster' due to their extreme popularity.

      Hellooo, anyoone online out there?

      Im having a hard time classified EA hockey as a trippel A 'thang'.

      Maybe Aljo know what exactly it takes to be a trippel A title?

      A large, well-known publishers, is EA for certain.

      Does really EA hockey 'live up' to the name as a AAA ?

      "According to the report, AAA games that are greenlit now with potential releases in 2024 or 2025 typically receive development budgets of $200 million or higher — Call of Duty has already surpassed $300 million in development costs alone."

      200 million dollar... That would have been something.

      Is this something EA can talk about, Aljo what is our budget here in 'hockey land'? What budget are NHL 24 gonna have?

      But no mather if its a trippel A or not, EA will always have a big pressure of succeeding, and I guess we all should have some expectations on our developers.

      I will love to hear the hype for 24. Just because its fun.

      • rsandersr47's avatar
        rsandersr47
        Seasoned Ace
        2 years ago
        @Sega82mega Regardless of you define itbas a AAA. They need to take 2-3 years and reinvest all revenue into the game to save the series imo. There just isn't enough changes. Everyone knows exactly what to expect every year and every year less people buy. I have NEVER been less excited about an NHL game. I expect almost nothing from 24. I might pick it up for black friday maybe. I was always getting EA play and getting the most expensive version. I'm just bored of it and sick of all the bugs. Whether you define it as a AAA game or not a $60 game should not have THIS many bugs. Especially in lobbies. What game has more lobby bugs? Again, if you compare this to 2k you would think 2k was a FAR FAR FAR bigger company and the game was made 20-30 years after NHL.. it's sad.

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