True broadcast camera

This is my exact thought process as well. 

As with any company, with a multitude of groups working together to deliver a consumer product, are there not think groups, project wide meetings and brain storm sessions on the progression of the series through the last three decades?

How could any group of professionals (which this team is made up of, talented at that) not have the common sense conclusion that building additions that satisfy the wide sphere of consumers only add value to the product overall? Who in the group says “I think we should just cut this out completely” - not thinking or accounting for the mass of offline users who want simulation hockey? 

Where is the inherent value in removing beloved features, rather than building on top of the work you’ve already accomplished? A new camera angle could have simply been added.

The logical deduction to this thought is that it is an intentional philosophy change. The transparency we request would be to know the actual MO for EA’s NHL series. If you are moving away from simulation, TELL YOUR CUSTOMERS. If this series is now and in the future directed towards HUT/online users then do not market your new release to simulation fanatics with “all new improved presentation” dynamics. There are mobile hockey games with better pre-game presentation than NHL 23.

There is no genuine justification for promoting an all new authentic presentation experience as a back-of-the-box feature and giving us seven second light shows for one-fifth of the league’s teams. Nor does the promotion of new presentation elements in any way, shape or form excuse the complete REMOVAL of a broadcast package that has been curated since NHL 20 and should only be getting BETTER with each passing year.

Removing the full broadcast negates ANY “plus” that your team intros bring, which based on customer feedback is zilch to begin with. 

And then EA addresses this outrage publicly, reassuring us that we are being heard, and their solution is to crudely copy and paste generic intros for the remainder of the league, and THEN REMOVE THE TRUE BROADCAST ANGLE *AFTER* THE GAME HAS LAUNCHED?

It’s one inch forward and two giant steps back with the patch. Nothing was rectified for the presentation craved fans who spurred the outrage. It is actually further insulting that yet ANOTHER presentation element (broadcast cam) that EA has crafted perfectly for the past decade is cut out post launch for the fans who use it. They default to this cam for their franchises, for their YouTube streams, for their slider testing, for their overall gameplay experience. 

It just feels, deep down in our guts, that this is a calculated and direct message to the negative feedback. EA heard us, told us they heard us, and then delivered this patch in response.

How can anybody not see this for what it is? And how can EA be confident that this problem was ethically and rightfully addressed to customer satisfaction? 

I am not being combative nor toxic with this post. Use critical thinking and really look at the situation and what the issues were clamored on about, and then assess EA’s solution and honestly tell yourself we are being heard. 

@EA_Aljo  Didn't intend to be disparaging or dismissive, what I meant is that developers make decisions and you are sometimes left to absorb the repercussions, in this instance particularly. I understand and respect your role as liaison but it seems futile here as you stated that the presentation decision and direction has been made and essentially we have to just live with it. I'd happily prefer to be wrong and welcome the possibility that the community could actually have some say in this. That continues to be my wish

Hi 

i bought this game last october at full price , 80$ + tx because i wanted to play true broadcast and ONLY TRUE BROADCAST, you cant just resize this mode just like that !!! this is not acceptable. We paid for this . please put it back as it was and for the people who dont like the dead angles , choose ANOTHER MODE.

You cant penalyze all the people that likes this mode . !!! 

its like buy a ticket for a game at Bell center section 100 and a security guy comes to escort you to section 400!!!!! the difference is terrible.!! i have absolutely no intention of playing this way . i already switch back to Nhl22 because this is the way i like to play. and if EA continue with this "False" broadcast , im not gonna buy another Nhl game . thats it for me . 

@bobo_32 

While the presentation decisions aren't up to me, the feedback I relay to the team is very valuable. So, it's definitely not futile to constructively provide your feedback here. Thank you!

Hi @EA_Aljo,

I greatly appreciate you reading through my concerns and passing that on to the team.

I understand that you and many other players could care less about presentation and that’s completely fine, what I’m saying is that I feel we should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time in regards to keeping both gameplay and presentation at linear growth as technology increases and so does the expectations for both. 

I think as games such as MLB the Show have demonstrated the best in all of sports titles how to best keep presentation and gameplay at a top tier level. I can tolerate gameplay changes being made more frequently than that of presentation, but where I start to feel frustrated more is where presentation development isn’t becoming stagnant even, but regressed, which I think is unacceptable with the expectations of video games today as new consoles and a generation of technology emerge. 

At the end of the day, NHL 23 should not have worse presentation than that of NHL 09 or 2k9, which I believe it clearly does. For this current game, I think asking for not even full presentation return, but just one camera angle to come back, that as the EA team might’ve been surprised would be a sole factor in people playing the game who payed $60+ for it. Appreciate you at least actually reading these and responding, and hope that a fair deal can be made with part of EA’s income base. 

That’s exactly right. 

I 100%, absolutely, completely do not want to play without full broadcast as an option. But I can.

The nail in the coffin is the broadcast cam. At that point, even if presentation virtually doesn’t exist, I still can’t just suck it up and enjoy the gameplay because I am accustomed (as so many others) to playing the game from that broadcast angle. 

Let me put it this way: if 2K Sports announced another hockey title to be released next year, and they launched but didn’t include a TV authentic broadcast cam, I would lose all interest.

Wow. I really don't know whether to laugh or cry at this point. Just like with the full presentation option missing, I was CERTAIN this was a bug. But just like with the presentation, also this was apparently intentional. You guys at EA really managed to * off the offline community this year. 

Just one horrible decision after another. So glad I didn't pre order this game. Instead I'm playing NHL 2k8, a 15 year old game that's so superior to NHL 23 it's laughable. A game clearly made by people who actually care. 

Sorry to say folks, but our only real hope is that 2K, Sony or another company comes along with a new NHL game to compete against this one. It's crazy that EA seems hell-bent on making people hate this game. First, it's misleading people about the new presentation features, then it's removing the full presentation option, now this. The whole point of TRUE presentation is that it mimics the REAL broadcast views you would see for each team's home telecast on your local RSN. Sony does the same for MLB The Show, with each team's pitch camera view that you can use being available to choose from. If EA is so worried about some of the players being hidden from the view, just do what The Show and NBA 2k do.. add a zoom in/out option where you can pan outward if you want, but still keep the real camera angle. It ain't that hard EA! Other devs have been doing that for years now!