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@EA_AljoYou want prove you have it 91 acc and speed vs 99 acc and speed. So you always hear about it, but never saw it ? 89 Jones vs TOTY McDavid. Slower player by 8 points, accelerate faster than my McDavid and what is more disgusting, that his Jones managed to turn around and still be faster then me....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeanGfQWHSU&ab_channel=Sirajs

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@sirajs wrote:

@EA_AljoYou want prove you have it 91 acc and speed vs 99 acc and speed. So you always hear about it, but never saw it ? 89 Jones vs TOTY McDavid. Slower player by 8 points, accelerate faster than my McDavid and what is more disgusting, that his Jones managed to turn around and still be faster then me....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeanGfQWHSU&ab_channel=Sirajs

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Have you considered that your opponent may have synergies activated like speed, acceleration, defense, etc?

@sirajs 

McDavid skated in a straight line and then turned. This slows you down. There also is a slight penalty to speed for carrying the puck. The defender is skating in a straight line. As mentioned, X-Factors can make a difference as well.

@Treatmentworke66

Jones is 3 inches taller and has a longer stride. We also don't know if Wheels and Elite Edges are activated on McDavid. McDavid swings wide, turns and then begins skating in a straight line. This is when hustle activates as he gets up to speed. At this point, it's too late. Jones has inside positioning and forces McDavid to turn again. Had he kept going in a straight line, he would have accelerated past Jones. Obviously, there's not enough room to do that though.

@KidShowtime1867pls man, you dont talk anymore, synergy gave him maximum 93 acc or speed, also this card hasnt this synergy even on speed and acceleration so his speed and acceleration was 91. You please play your offline modes and dont bother us, with your non sense advices.

@EA_AljoYou are serious Aljo ? He turn around and start skates from scratch, even if he has some synregy activated, he has maximum 93 speed or 93 acc other point, his card was Winternational, this card hasnt synergy to speed or acceleration, it wasnt Xfactor Seth Jones. So once again Seth Jones 89 - Winternational Edition, he managed to turn around and still be faster then 99 speed and acceleration McDavid, even McDavid was already in sprint. But i expect answer like this and its so ridiculous, that you won't admit this is really weird... You always say, i just hear how slower player is faster then some higher rated card and when i give you prove, you start complaining with this....So in the end, it doesnt matter, how many proves we will give you. Just simply admit that your game is broken. As you wrote in some topics, you dont even know, how to repair a lot of bugs in this game, because code is overloaded and your devs cant find the problem.

@sirajs 

Jones starts off with a step on McDavid. He keeps skating in a straight line and gets up to speed. McDavid turns so he loses a step here. He then needs to take a few strides to get up to speed. Even with his acceleration being higher, this doesn't immediately happen on the first stride. By the time he gets to that state, he has to turn again which loses the speed. Jones is skating towards McDavid. He's skating at an angle that crosses McDavid, which then forces the turn I mentioned previously. 

You'll need to get a video of these 2 players starting from a stand still at the same spot, with full energy, showing Jones outskating McDavid in a straight line for there to be an issue to investigate.

@EA_AljoMaaan halooo, he has 8 less points to speed and acceleration then McDavid....8 points....i just consider, how you cant see that paradox...I wouldn't say anything if it was like 3-5 points, but 8 ? Really ? It's the same nonsense as if you said, F2 will be faster then F1 because he start from the straight and F1 start from the corner.....this is just no logical and total nonsense for everyone who understand that a little bit..

@sirajs 

If McDavid hadn't turned, you would have seen him accelerate more. The turn is the main thing that killed his speed. You also can't discount the larger stride from Jones.

Look, I get what you're saying, but there are other variables here causing this to happen. Hopefully, we can agree to disagree.

@EA_AljoMcDavid best skater in NHL for century. Did you ever watch his movement skills IRL ? And you still comparing to Jones ? Its like comparing driving skills of Verstappen and Hulkenberg :D If you still dont see how absurd this is, i think that this is last thing what i need to know, to finally quit this game and never buy it again, because this is really too much, compare McDavid to average Seth Jones and even McDavid has almost +10 points more then Jones......extreme

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@sirajs wrote:

@KidShowtime1867pls man, you dont talk anymore, synergy gave him maximum 93 acc or speed, also this card hasnt this synergy even on speed and acceleration so his speed and acceleration was 91. You please play your offline modes and dont bother us, with your non sense advices.

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I don't play offline and I'll keep posting 🙂

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@sirajs wrote:

@EA_AljoMcDavid best skater in NHL for century. Did you ever watch his movement skills IRL ? And you still comparing to Jones ? Its like comparing driving skills of Verstappen and Hulkenberg :D If you still dont see how absurd this is, i think that this is last thing what i need to know, to finally quit this game and never buy it again, because this is really too much, compare McDavid to average Seth Jones and even McDavid has almost +10 points more then Jones......extreme   

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Why are you only mad about Jones catching McDavid but not upset about you catching him with Doughty? 

This expectation that McDavid should be faster than everyone else 'just cuz' is only going to upset you in the long run. There are ways to counter act the speed of McDavid, both in real life and in the video game. Funny enough, forcing McDavid to turn will negate some of his speed in both cases. 

With that being said, I'm slightly on your side on this issue. 

This poke by Jones should've resulted in McDavid blowing by him:

However, you did begin turning with McDavid right when Jones began to accelerate when you should've kept going the angle you were to get straight-line speed. 

At the end of the day, you're playing HUT; one of the most unrealistic modes in the game. Almost zero attribute parity when competing at high levels, the randomness of Synergies altering core gameplay elements in unrealistic ways and the general "arcadeness" of the mode in terms of how players actually play this mode (win at all costs versus having fun playing hockey) all combine to an overall awful experience, unless you've mastered the ability to abuse mechanics with high-attribute players and have activated all the right synergies that compliment your particular style of play. 

Stop expecting 100% realism from this mode and lambasting anyone who proves you wrong. You need to expect weird outcomes to happen in HUT.

@KidShowtime1867As you said HUT is broken, but HUT keeping this game alive. Even with that little turns 99 is 99 and also its Mcdavid. This is just ridicoulous as Aljo finding excuses, but he will never confirm, something is wrong, but its typical EA behavior, i would be more happy, that he admits, this game is totally broken, then this excuses. And my Doughty is 99 OVR card with all 99 abilities except face offs, so its normal that i can catch McDavid with 99 speed if my Doughty has same stats on this attributes, so nothing unexpected that i catched him.

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@sirajs wrote: As you said HUT is broken, but HUT keeping this game alive.

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On its own? No. Sure, it plays a part in the popularity of the game. Gambling tends to attract a lot of people. 

But if HUT went away tomorrow, there'd still be thousands of us playing WoC, BAP, Offline franchise, etc. There's even a large Online Shootout community. Lots of ways to play and enjoy hockey.

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@sirajs wrote: Even with that little turns 99 is 99 and also its Mcdavid. 

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Irrelevant. Do you really feel you should have an acceleration and speed advantage in every scenario, in spite of inefficient movements by way of your input?

HUT does a lot of heavy lifting for less-than-skilled opponents by allowing them to just purchase players with higher attributes and thus allow more room for user error. However, if a player chooses to take a long path rather than execute straight-line speed, in no way whatsoever should the game just let you burst by another player based on the principle that "cuz it's McDavid'. 

It's your job as the player to get the most of your 99 McDavid and sometimes you're just going to be a little less efficient than you want to be based on the scenario. In your particular case, Jones' poke check caused you to angle out and then you tried to come back in. I don't care who you are - you're going to lose some speed during that transition. It just so happened that Jones accelerated at the exact moment you were losing speed with McDavid. Again - a synergy is likely at play here but there's still inneficient movement on your part and you got caught for it. 

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@sirajs wrote: This is just ridicoulous as Aljo finding excuses, but he will never confirm, something is wrong, but its typical EA behavior

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I think EA has handled this thread pretty well. You want them to confirm something that doesn't exist (a supposed nerf to McDavid's speed). When they don't, you just accuse them of making excuses. 

@KidShowtime1867Man i am really done with you :D Its totaly stupid what are you saying. EA handling something well ? What ? Their games are broken, no matter which game they produce, asking for them insane money..even now after more then 6 months of release they are not able repair basic things, all PRO players, casual players saying the same, twitter comments are from 90% just negative and you are only one who still defend them :D Keep climbing to their bottoms. Bye and ignore my posts please, noone care your stupid advices by rectal alpinist.

@sirajs 

Broken would mean the game is unplayable. If it were, nobody would even be playing. Which, absolutely is about as far from the truth as possible. Does it have its issues? Yes, of course. We all know there are bugs as well as plenty of room for improvement.

I think all has been said about this as can be. It's just going in circles at this point. You're certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect that. The information I relay to the community comes from working along side this team for many years now. I can't make you believe me, I can just give you the facts. People have had the theory that slower players are beating faster players as long as HUT has existed. There has been no evidence to support that so far.

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