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@dafff79e50b23c53 wrote:Why is simply letting us clear the puck not getting fixed? It's been broken since launch.
Chipping the puck off the glass to relieve pressure is a skill that requires positional responsibility in order to execute properly. As the developers have already implied; The flip dump is not a 'get-out-of-jail-free' card. Meaning, you can't just press R1+RS the instant you obtain a puck and expect it to eliminate the full pressure. You need to get yourself into a position in order to use the dump effectively. If you can't, there are other options to quickly move a puck in an attempt to get out of the zone: power-sauce, R2 + Shoot, Shoot, Hard pass.
Below are some in-game examples, followed by practice mode examples to demonstrate the major difference subtle positional changes have on chipping pucks off the glass.
Yes, opponent is diving at me in the D-Zone which is indicative of a lower-skilled player, however, this opponent's CR turned out to be 899 (roughly top 100 player in OVP). I believe the diving was a message to imply he was annoyed I was dumping it every chance I got.
Went out of my way to use the dump puck feature, so these scenarios may have warranted a pass rather than a dump, but I wanted to show that you can utilize the dump effectively in-game if you learn to master it.
Here's a slow dump from trying to chip it off the glass from too far away (at the faceoff dot - puck lands right outside the blue line):
Here's a dump from a little closer (between the dot and hash marks - puck lands between blue and red line):
Finally, what I believe is the perfect spot - close against the boards to get the best angle for speed and distance (puck lands almost at the referees crease):
Imagine they remove wrist shots from the game and I made videos that show me scoring with slap shots to show wrist shots aren’t needed. It’s great that you showed an alternative, but this doesn’t come close to helping with the request for flip dumps.
Flip dumps are hockey plays that are not only extremely common, but very easy to pull off. All that many of us are requesting is that said hockey plays be in the game instead of playing some arcade fantasy game that the “developers implied.”
@Beauts90 wrote:Imagine they remove wrist shots from the game and I made videos that show me scoring with slap shots to show wrist shots aren’t needed. It’s great that you showed an alternative, but this doesn’t come close to helping with the request for flip dumps.
Your complaint is about flipping the puck high and out. I'm responding to claims that clearing the puck, primarily off the glass, is "broken".
@Beauts90 wrote:
Flip dumps are hockey plays that are not only extremely common, but very easy to pull off. All that many of us are requesting is that said hockey plays be in the game instead of playing some arcade fantasy game that the “developers implied.”
I don't think anyone here is disputing that flipping the puck high and out is a hockey play. I'm showcasing the alternatives in place.
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@Beauts90 wrote:Imagine they remove wrist shots from the game and I made videos that show me scoring with slap shots to show wrist shots aren’t needed. It’s great that you showed an alternative, but this doesn’t come close to helping with the request for flip dumps.
Your complaint is about flipping the puck high and out. I'm responding to claims that clearing the puck, primarily off the glass, is "broken".
@Beauts90 wrote:
Flip dumps are hockey plays that are not only extremely common, but very easy to pull off. All that many of us are requesting is that said hockey plays be in the game instead of playing some arcade fantasy game that the “developers implied.”
I don't think anyone here is disputing that flipping the puck high and out is a hockey play. I'm showcasing the alternatives in place.
Yeah sorry, I reread your post, my mistake.
I thought they were talking about the infamous puck flip and not just any type of zone clear.
I don't understand the logic of releasing a new tuner in the middle of the playoffs.
I'm not upset, it simply doesn't make sense to potentially change the way the game is played and kill a club's run.
Other than that, initial signs are promising. There's more emphasis on the endurance stat, but it's also slowed the game down a little.
I'm sure people will adapt fairly quickly and we'll end up more or less in the same place, but it was at least a positive attempt and can be revisited with further adjustments if it doesn't end up being enough.
The negative is that hitting remains overpowered. There are simply too many big hits with disproportionate reactions.
Injuring or flattening someone multiple times a game, the amount of time it takes a player to recover, heat-seeking hip checks, and the window for hits behind the play, all need adjusting.
With the increased emphasis on maintaining energy, gaming the system will likely result in even more hitting for the energy sapping impact.
I hope a future tuner can address some of those elements in order to achieve a better balance.
