Picking up pucks while looking away
Cant believe this is not talked about more. Players skating away from the play, with 0 vision on the puck and player carrying the puck are MORE accurate at interceptions than a guy LOOKING and faci...
Forum Discussion
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Community ManagerYou're asking for an immediate puck steal with a simple button combination. For this to be full sim, you'd need to get into a good position, lift the stick or poke and then hit a button to pick up the puck. As it is now, you have to knock the puck loose and then skate within reach to pick it up. Which is still more sim even though the puck is automatically being picked up just for being close to it.
Making the game full sim means taking the most basic hockey skills and removing the automation for them. Pick ups and full manual passing are good examples. How much fun would be added to the game if these were more difficult to do?
If there really were as much interest in full sim sports games, there would be more of them. I really think people are overestimating how popular they would be. We already get complaints that NHL is too hard for new people to pick up.
@EA_Aljo wrote:You're asking for an immediate puck steal with a simple button combination. For this to be full sim, you'd need to get into a good position, lift the stick or poke and then hit a button to pick up the puck. As it is now, you have to knock the puck loose and then skate within reach to pick it up. Which is still more sim even though the puck is automatically being picked up just for being close to it.
Making the game full sim means taking the most basic hockey skills and removing the automation for them. Pick ups and full manual passing are good examples. How much fun would be added to the game if these were more difficult to do?
If there really were as much interest in full sim sports games, there would be more of them. I really think people are overestimating how popular they would be. We already get complaints that NHL is too hard for new people to pick up.
Well this game is probably difficult for beginners because there's no tutorials, the default sliders allow for the CPU to do insane 360 spins that would put gold medal figure skaters to shame all while at full speed, defensive actions are inconsistently rewarded even when executed perfectly, the AI can't do extremely simple tasks like "stand next to the opponent in your slot rather than drifting behind the net for no reason", and the goalies have had their limb reactions turned up to "robot" so the only consistent way to score is by doing 1 of the 2 EA approve patterns of scoring which makes new players frustrated because they just watched a real life NHL game where shooting from the slot is rewarded but in this game that's met with a 99.99999% save percentage unless the magic pattern and aim was used.
This game isn't hard for beginners because its a hard game. Its hard for beginners because there's no tutorials and basic hockey concepts are not rewarded in the slightest so a new player whether they be a hockey fan or not would lack the slightest clue as to how to score on a semi-consistent basis.
- EA_Aljo
Apologies for being incorrect with feeling like you wanted a full simulation game. I agree there are certainly aspects that could be more realistic. Hopefully, that will happen. Thanks for all the feedback.
No problem at all. And I don't mean to sound defensive, I just want to make sure my intentions are clear. I don't want to sacrifice "fun" nor "accessibility" for the sake of "realism."
I don't think "realism" plays too nicely with a controller for obvious reasons. Obviously I'm biased, but I feel like my feedback/suggestions are coming from both a "competitive" side and a hockey side. I think there's many ways we could allow for both more of a skill gap as well as respecting the sport of hockey that we simply haven't tried. I find rocket league to be addicting. Always trying to improve, simple controls, yet extremely hard to master. Why can't this series be the same?
- EA_Aljo
I'm in agreement with what you're saying. I definitely want a more realistic game that remains competitive with a good skill gap. I don't really have any issues with the skill gap currently. Players with high skill are going to have that reflect in their rank. It still takes a lot of skill to get to the higher divisions and stay there. I'll make sure the feedback gets passed on.
