Add legacy (NHL 23 and prior) skill stick control scheme. It's very frustrating that you can't dangle with the right stick anymore, the player ALWAYS goes into protect puck. This reduces the fun of the game and only add frustration.
@EA_AljoNo problem, I didnt say EA was blaming me, I'm just pointing out to whoever tell me it's a skill issue and to ''adapt''. Not one person in particular.
But in other hand, EA awknowledged the reverse hit issue by tweaking it later on so why can't they awknowledge the same issue with protect puck? It's the same thing, just a different button. I know this one is a lot harder to change since it's not going back to a face button..but there's alternative possibilities and they are just being ignored.
Like I said to Kidshowtime, I dont see it as a skill issue....More like an handicap in which case thats how I use my controler all the time, an habit I dont see going away anytime soon.
And again I'm not calling out to change the controler setting as it is, thats not what I saying at all. Just the option to move it or disable it.
Because I'm the only one actively calling it out on the forum to this day, it doesnt mean I'm alone with the issue. It was being called out by many others too earlier when the game came out. There's like what, 1-2% of the actual full community coming on this forum at this time of the year? Most peoples just ''deal'' with it or even though they dislike it, they wont ever come here to let us/you guys know. It doesnt make it less of an issue for many peoples.
@Tigidooh wrote:@KidShowtime1867You're not wrong the way you words it. I'm indeed putting unnecessary pressure on the stick, but I cant help it, it's not something connected to NHL only, I do it in every games but it's much worse in NHL, I'm quite competitive and NHL is full of micro action/reactions? Not sure if it make sense?
Yea that makes perfect sense. NHL is a very fast-paced game with, like you said, all kinds of micro action/reactions. It's why the game is popular with people who don't even necessarily like hockey - the gameplay aspect of shooting a puck into a net and all the stuff that comes along with that makes Hockey an incredibly fun sport to virtualize. But it comes with issues like this where sometimes the user needs to do things that can be counterintuitive to controller design.
It's a tough balance for the developers I'm sure and I think topics like this ensure that it stays top of mind from a feedback perspective.
@Tigidooh wrote: And to all of a sudden tell me to adapt to something I'm used to for so long...is quite a stretch when it come to something that mess up your controls. You can also see it as many players ignoring lots of advanced dekes...you can ask them to practice it as many times as you can but will never get the hang of it during the intensity of the game.
Yea I'm starting to come around to why the controller changes seem to have impacted users so much whereas I felt, personally, the transition to total control was rather seamless.
Players choosing to avoid advanced dekes is likely why EA introduced the one-touch-dekes. The ability to execute these maneuvers quickly and in 'tight' scenarios makes it so fun.
@KidShowtime1867Glad we're finally somewhat getting on the same page. As said, I'm not saying to blow up the new controls, if it suit you guys, great! I'm not complaining about that. But you can't expect everyone to like the changes or have the changes suit everyone else as it does for you.
I just ask for a way to have the previous NHL controls for the sticks back (minus the puck protect to a face button) I was already hardly ever using puck protect before so if to get the stick controls back to ''normal'' is to sacrifice protect puck, so be it, I'll live with it I guess. (even though I would rather just have the modifier on a different button like a paddle for thoses with Elite controller so I can actually use protect puck when it please me). If it was possible I would go as far as buying an Elite Controller especially for NHL. It's already the case anyway, I have a base controller specifically for NHL only as any stick drift or whatever is a killer in this game. As much as it is your right to be fine with the new control, it's also my right to have a grip with it.
Community ManagerWhere would you move puck protect to? Like you said, we're not considering a face button. That was very heavily used to exploit back skating. Changing the control for this would also mean moving another function so it can get pretty complicated. It's also not a matter of just moving it to a different button, but one that also feels more natural. For me, it automatically kicks in when I'm holding in hustle. Hustle disengages when turning so it works out well. However, I've also remapped left stick click to one of the left paddles on the underside of the Elite controller. I know not everyone has access to an aftermarket controller with additional buttons.
When it comes to aftermarket controllers, there are others available at a lower price than the Elite models. Those can be pretty spendy.
@EA_Aljo
I could say a face button but I know it's not going to happen.
But, using your right stick to dekes will automaticly disengage the hustle, right? Why can't the same thing be done when using protect puck? It disengage back skating and vice versa when holding back skating disengage puck protect? So you cant exploit it by using both at the same time and tweak it so you cant turn 180 degree on a penny too.
I understand it's a lot easier said than done and I'm not expecting it to happen.
To answer your question though, like said, I know it wouldnt fit to normal controller, but the option to move it to a paddle to whoever use elite controllers and the such, is very reasonnable and doable. It would require to get one of these controller but at least the option would be available. Now it's up to each individual to decide whether or not they are ready to get a special controller...at least an option is proposed.
Look forward to it too, maybe the next gen console will FINALLY make these controllers the norm (hopefully) ...so the game will already be up to date.
And the other option is as simple as giving the option to disable it (it's even you that proposed this back in october in one of your answer to me :P ). Just like you can disable/enable auto back skating.
Community ManagerYeah, I still think having the option to disable left and right stick clicking would be great. Except for when it comes to hustle. Which is obviously one of the most used functions in the game. Still, just disabling right stick click would have been nice.
Edit: I agree that disabling puck protect when backskating is a good resolution for this. I really don't see the need to protect the puck when backskating anyway. Stickhandling is enough and it's pretty unrealistic/impossible to do both at the same time anyway.
@EA_Aljo
No no, I'm not saying to disable L3, of course hustle is a necessity and thats why remaping from within the xbox controls option doesnt work, because you cant move one (puck protect) or the other (hustle) separatly, they are tied together.
I'm asking the option to disable puck protect only or the option to remap it to a paddle from in-game option (the protect puck alone). Not disabling the entirety of L3.
Just as much as I cant disable R3 entirely to avoid reverse hit miss click as it would mean getting rid of the puck chop too...which is a no no too, it's way too practical.
Thats why it need to be done in-game, it's the only way.
-''I think disabling puck protect when stick handling is good, but you may not necessarily need to stickhandle to abuse that mechanic. Though it would lose some of it's appeal. Not a bad idea altogether though.''-
I'm frankly not sure to get what you mean there or I completely missread it. What you mean by abusing that mechanic?
Community ManagerI remapped right stick click to the right paddle so puck chops are very intuitive. I use them frequently. Again, I totally get that this isn't an option for everyone. Ideally, we'd have a way to remap all the controls in-game. I truly hope that happens someday, but with some limitations to avoid exploits.
Yeah, I misread that and edited my previous response.
@EA_Aljo
Yeah I get you, it must be great to have it on a paddle even though I love the puck chop on the R3. In other hand I would gladly have reverse hit on the right paddle while leaving the puck chop on the R3. That would be perfect for me.
Remaping from in-game would be perfect as long as it let us move skills/abilities individually.....and not just the entire button as in R3 <--> Paddle2 (the latest would not resolve the issue).
Also option to disable specifics ability that arent a necessity AKA puck protect/reverse hit/puck chop/vision passing.
I understand there would be some specific limitation but overall it's really just moving a skill/ability from point A to point B to suit each individual preferences.
As long as while giving these remaping options, they consider the paddles from ''special'' controllers. It will open up on a lot of possibilities.
I would openly call it a step in the right direction! lol
More maniabilities/quality of life improvement in a sort of way.
Have a good day.
Community ManagerI use the skill stick controls so reverse hit is the A/X button. I like it here and have been using it more frequently as of late. I just need to get used to it more. I hear ya though. Puck chop on the stick always felt good. I do miss it.
I get what you're saying about remapping the individual functions rather than the whole button. I'd love to see that happen. It's been requested for many years. This would especially help with those that have mobility issues.
Have a good day yourself. Appreciate the chat 🙂
