I'm excited that the focus this year was offline, specifically franchise mode. But I have to say, I am equally disappointed that full presentation is not back. The team knows how requested it is, and I'm sure they've seen our suggestions by now that it be on a toggle switch for those who aren't as interested. I understand the syncing issues might make it impossible to do for online, but it could have just been put back into offline modes since that's what the team was working on anyway.

So sad, seems they let online tiktok kids with no attention span dictate the direction of the franchise…

Funny how these highly successful titles...Madden, EA FC, NBA 2K, MLB the Show, PGA Tour, all feature full presentation and build on it almost every release, coming closer and closer to actual broadcast, while NHL keeps moving further away. Definitely not haha funny tho.

WE NEED A FULL PRESENTATION! Now the game is too fast. After the whistle, I would like to relax for a while, maybe drink something and watch the replay a few times, just like in real life. This would make the game much more enjoyable, and the game wouldn't feel so rushed.

EA_Aljo wrote:We get complaints that the game is copied and pasted every year. Then, we change stuff up, give it a new presentation style and what do we get requests for? The same look we had previously.I make a bad sandwich, you tell me it's bad. I make a worse sandwich and you tell me it tastes worse. That doesn't mean the bad sandwich is good, it means it just means it's not as bad as the new one. Do you understand what we are saying?

This is truly terrible for offline franchise. I get it for online but offline they know people are playing for immersion and they want at least the option to view or skip a full presentation package with all the bells and whistles. And they give us that… might as well just load directly to the opening draw, smh.

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trunkfu
Rising Traveler
2 months ago
Another year without goalie introduce.... i am sad
admiral745
Seasoned Hotshot
2 months ago
Okay, so just catching up on the forum after taking the day to deal with health issues, not asking for sympathy or anything. I love being on these forums for the insights, as well as being able to share my thoughts. Anyone who knows me, or has seen me on these forums over the past years, knows I believe in honesty. If something is good about the NHL version, I give praise where praise is due. If something stinks, or smells off, I will tell it to you straight. I have always appreciated EA_Aljo 's efforts to be as open as they are able to, realizing that in many things, moderator's hands are simply tied. The point in having a forum, is to gather insight into the gamer's side of things, get their thoughts on the product. Honesty is key. If, as a gamer, they choose not to be on the forum, nor share their thoughts, that is totally on that person, and their thoughts are simply lost into the void, that is their choice, if they want their thoughts to be imparted into any kind of change, then they must go onto the forums, its that simple. I appreciate having the forums available to use and to share on. What I don't appreciate is that when feedback is given, it often feels like it is ignored by the devs/EA. Hey, it may be that it is heard and plans are in the works for some of these things to be implemented down the road. If this insight is not shared or communicated in any way with those who are paying hard earned money, at a time when money is getting super tight, then people start to grow frustrated and will react in 1 of 2 ways. Reaction 1 will be to stop sharing feedback and simply go back to an older version of the game, a reaction that could be avoided if someone from the dev team stepped down from on high and gave a glimmer of hope for the requested changes, let people know they were heard. Reaction 2 is almost worse than them not spending money on EA games, it involves getting to the point of frustration where all they do is provide negative feedback, without any positive feedback. This negativity then drives people away from the game, lessening the overall marketability of future titles/products. Again, simply having game devs or those higher up the food chain stop in occasionally to say they hear the concern and it is being worked on, OR having the devs put out videos addressing some concerns and reassuring the consumer that they are appreciated, would go a long way to rebuilding trust. This is basic customer service, and basic marketing. Marketing 101 and Customer Service 101. If EA shares nothing and remains secretive, and fails to share information in a timely manner prior to game launch, well they make their bed and all that. To consumers it becomes a matter of once bitten, twice shy. I continue to play, as there is enough there that I enjoy to act as a distraction from the enormous amounts of pain I deal with daily, again not asking for sympathy, just explaining why I continue to play. If I felt that sharing led to actual change, I would be inclined to share more wish lists that I compile of things people request and have been requesting for years. Sadly, I have not felt like this has been the case, which is no fault of the forum mods, it is the fault of those higher ups, so I see no point in sharing wish lists and wasting time on gathering info to place in them. I have said my piece, EA can take it and leave it, which would seem to be the norm, or they can humble themselves and start showing consumers that they can change their ways and actually care what any of us have to say. I have removed all of my NHL streaming videos and will not be making more until I feel that EA appreciates our feedback. BreakerFamily peacing out.
nhluser
Rising Traveler
2 months ago
Yes we see this every year now shorter and shorter intros it seems.Is it so hard to make the intros up to 30-40 sec and we all can be happy now it really kills the game day atmosphere now we get 9 SECONDS it like go to a real hockey game and you only can watch the last 2 periods and paying full price maybe bad comparison but it feels the same actually only way to explain it the way you want to feel BEFORE a game starts really make the whole game experience later on because you expect to load up before the game but you have no time for it.
SnizzBarDizz2oh
Rising Traveler
2 months ago
I just wish there were transparency.
bobo_32
Rising Rookie
2 months ago
Funny how these highly successful titles...Madden, EA FC, NBA 2K, MLB the Show, PGA Tour, all feature full presentation and build on it almost every release, coming closer and closer to actual broadcast, while NHL keeps moving further away. Definitely not haha funny tho.
bg0vzeyqov1y
New Traveler
2 months ago
Do we at least get the two replays after a goal? (one angle sometimes in the back of the arena so we can't actually see anything) If so I bet you still can't see celebrations in the replays too, cause of the flex moment crud.

Presentation in these games are miles away from an actual NHL broadcast.
MV75
Rising Traveler
2 months ago
Thats sad, max 10 sec of a pre-game presentation does not hype the game for me....Its feels to much like HUT....
I get it that not ALL players love or hate the same type of presentations. But there is a very easy solution. Make it an option. Those who love the fast go into a new game HUT presentation can have that, And the offline gamers who loves a good presentation that is atleast 30 sec can have that.
I give credit for FC25 that listened to the community when they took away lineups from the presentation in FC24 and put in back but also made it an option that every one can choose for themself...
You dont have to please just one fan base (HUT)... options is your guideline to please several fan bases (HUT/EASHL/Franchise/Season/play now)....
- jlnhl2001
  Seasoned Novice
  2 months ago
  But that's because FC makes more money than NHL. You guys need to understand that.
Bahamuta
New Adventurer
2 months ago
This just got posted. Pre-game presentation is almost faster then last years....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ilAx1B5cQ
- LuGer33x
  Seasoned Newcomer
  2 months ago
  This is truly terrible for offline franchise. I get it for online but offline they know people are playing for immersion and they want at least the option to view or skip a full presentation package with all the bells and whistles. And they give us that… might as well just load directly to the opening draw, smh.
aki_123456789
Rising Traveler
2 months ago
WE NEED A FULL PRESENTATION! Now the game is too fast. After the whistle, I would like to relax for a while, maybe drink something and watch the replay a few times, just like in real life. This would make the game much more enjoyable, and the game wouldn't feel so rushed.
Strictly60s
Rising Rookie
2 months ago
So much for the "we hear you guys" nonsense they spewed after the backlash when they initially took out full presentation. So much for the presentation deep dive.....so much for, really, any presentation changes and improvements. What an absolute joke but I shouldn't even be surprised with this dev crew already this is their norm..................
- KlariskraysNHL
  Hero
  2 months ago
  But there are presentation improvements. We saw it in the form of more detailed players and Franchise presentation menus getting improved. They didn't promise full presentation would return but simply understand they know it's wanted.
  - KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    2 months ago
    KlariskraysNHL wrote:
    But there are presentation improvements.
    Jarring and predictable camera cuts to the coach were the only presentation elements I saw changed in this full gameplay video that was put on YouTube today. Although, the score clock no longer eating up so much real estate and being moved to its proper home in the top left is a nice change.
    KlariskraysNHL wrote:
    We saw it in the form of more detailed players and Franchise presentation menus getting improved.
    The new player models seem to have negated what the previous models accomplished in terms of player differentiation. It seems they all have the same skating stride now and appear to all look the same.
    The Franchise menu, while seemingly a nice upgrade, has nothing to do with the 'Presentation' that the community has been clamouring for.
    KlariskraysNHL wrote:
    They didn't promise full presentation would return but simply understand they know it's wanted
    True, nothing is ever promised when it comes to this game though. We're all left in the dark about potential changes during the year and during this release cycle, we literally got our first true gameplay video a few days prior to early access.
    Do they know it's wanted? I know they say they know, but do they truly know? Because the public consensus is that people want an experience that they can immerse themselves in and EA seems to believe that means Fortnite dances, pond hockey and single player celebrations that don't accurately convey the celebratory nature of this team sport.
    Based on what we know about '25, we're still going to be forced into pond-hockey environments for EASHL drop-ins while still being forced to see players wearing full body suits that may or may not be a werewolf. Still going to likely continue the trend of having to rename our clubs after a salty opponent takes a loss and weaponizes EA's algorithmic censorship system. Chances are, we're still going to be stuck in 2009 when 1 player out of 12 can pause the game for everyone. Still going to be stuck with senseless 30-second delays in-between periods.
    EASHL has dedicated servers, so it begs the question as to why we still don't have a lobby system where we can coordinate pickup games without having to use outside websites.
    Griefers will still dominate the landscape in HUT, OVP and EASHL. I was playing MLB The Show the other day and after taking the lead against my opponent, he decided to begin hitting all of my batters. After the 4th straight bean in the 5th inning, the game literally just ended. Went right to the end-of-game highlights with the commentators thanking everyone for watching. I got the Win and was able to move right into another game.
    In EASHL HUT or OVP - players are able to use the mechanics to play keep away, rag the puck and otherwise be a disturbance with almost no repercussions.
    Seeing these quality-of-life issues continue to be ignored year after year while the representatives continue to say "we're aware of that" is starting to reinforce the notion that maybe they don't actually know what's wanted and are instead having their efforts go into following trends rather than shoring up a hardcore base of users.