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XxHATEBR33DERxX
Rising Newcomer
28 days ago

No reward for effort

I've been a dedicated and committed player and customer of the NHL franchise since NHL 94 on the sega Genesis. This years NHL 25 product is by far the biggest sham ive ever experienced. I am a world of Chel guy, I have no interest in any other game modes but world of Chel easchl clubs. I want to give my feedback on why this game is a mess and I will list all my issue ls below...

1: why even after the last update are my vision passing icons still not appearing unless my club faces a team in division 10 or any of the lower divisions yet when we play a division 1 or 2 team they are non existent.?

2: why is it harder to score against A.I goalies when we play against the bad teams. Why do these bad teams get to beat us while we have triple the time on attack and over double the shots with the majority of the shots being quality opportunities only for a bad team to go down and flick their stick and our goalie lets in all the softies.

3: what is the point of a full pressure system that a team earns if the A.I goalies are able to make the craziest most unrealistic saves with zero energy...? How is that at all realistic. 

4: why is drop in rp tied in with club rp? Why is there no rp multiplier for winning multiple games in a row? Why is a individual players rp a result of the teams success or failures? If I play exceptionally well but my team sucks why should my rp be negatively affected.

 

5: Why can't we choose to play against the exact team size in chel clubs like we were able to do in years past? 

6: why are hip checks so overpowered and who though it was a smart idea to map it along with the Michigan goal to one button? Where is the skill gap in that? 

7: to summarize all of the above, I feel and I am sure a lot of others feel this way as well... The good teams aren't rewarded for good high level playing anymore. The game doesn't feel authentic, the game is full of unnecessary animations, things we liked were taken away from us, while things we don't care about have been more emphasized on. NHL 14 was the best version of the NHL franchise. Bring back NHL 14 in a remastered form! 

Id love to hear some feedback from other dedicated Chel players who demand change and improvements and also who would be in favor of bringing back NHL 14 in a current gen form!?

 

 

 

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  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
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    28 days ago

    Hi there. Thanks for all the feedback. I'll do my best to get your questions answered. 

    1: why even after the last update are my vision passing icons still not appearing unless my club faces a team in division 10 or any of the lower divisions yet when we play a division 1 or 2 team they are non existent.?

    We're aware of the issue with icon passing. Hopefully, that will be addressed in a future update.

    Your division isn't taken into consideration with matchmaking so it's possible to match with teams in any division. I've seen other feedback on this and will be sure to relay yours as well.

    2: why is it harder to score against A.I goalies when we play against the bad teams. Why do these bad teams get to beat us while we have triple the time on attack and over double the shots with the majority of the shots being quality opportunities only for a bad team to go down and flick their stick and our goalie lets in all the softies.

    There is nothing built into the game that makes goalies harder to score on under any circumstances. Goalies are the same on both ends of the ice. What makes a bigger difference are the players in front of them. Good defense is going to mean less shots making their way to the net. As we have seen in the real world, most any shot can be a threat. 

    3: what is the point of a full pressure system that a team earns if the A.I goalies are able to make the craziest most unrealistic saves with zero energy...? How is that at all realistic. 

    A goalie's chances of making saves are less when under full pressure. This doesn't mean they should never make a good save though.

    4: why is drop in rp tied in with club rp? Why is there no rp multiplier for winning multiple games in a row? Why is a individual players rp a result of the teams success or failures? If I play exceptionally well but my team sucks why should my rp be negatively affected.

    Hockey is a team sport so your RP is going to reflect that. This also discourages selfish play. For example, if RP didn't affect the team, someone could play selfishly and end up having a strong offensive game and get RP while the rest of the team suffers.

    5: Why can't we choose to play against the exact team size in chel clubs like we were able to do in years past? 

    The matchmaking filters were removed to support a system that is supposed to support quicker matchmaking. Obviously, we've received a heavy amount of feedback on this. We'll have to wait and see if the filters return in the future.

    6: why are hip checks so overpowered and who though it was a smart idea to map it along with the Michigan goal to one button? Where is the skill gap in that? 

    I personally am not a fan of the one button hipchecks. Regardless, there's still a skill gap at play. If you see someone abusing hipchecks, you should have an easier time avoiding them. Also, those players tend to end up out of position quite a lot. Getting a pass off and then getting hit means they are out of the play. 

    The Michigan is very easy to defend against. I don't think it should have been mapped to a single button, but I also don't have a real problem with it. I think I've seen this scored once since there's normally no problem with stopping it.

    7: to summarize all of the above, I feel and I am sure a lot of others feel this way as well... The good teams aren't rewarded for good high level playing anymore. The game doesn't feel authentic, the game is full of unnecessary animations, things we liked were taken away from us, while things we don't care about have been more emphasized on. NHL 14 was the best version of the NHL franchise. Bring back NHL 14 in a remastered form! 

    We'll have to agree to disagree. A team of skilled players with good chemistry are going to be rewarded. You're always welcome to provide video of the issues you feel aren't realistic. That said, this is a video game and it's probably never going to be a true 1:1 recreation of the actual sport. 

    Id love to hear some feedback from other dedicated Chel players who demand change and improvements and also who would be in favor of bringing back NHL 14 in a current gen form!?

    Have you played NHL 14 lately? It would be interesting to see what people think. As far as the realism goes, the physics, player movements, skating, etc, are more realistic than a game from 11 years ago. NHL 14 allowed you to skate laterally across the blades. This would be impossible and cause your player to fall. What exactly about NHL 14 do you want back?

  • scttyg98's avatar
    scttyg98
    New Traveler
    27 days ago

    I played nhl 11 a few weeks ago. Graphics weren't as nice, but the game was way more fun. Felt way more realistic. It has it's glitches, which still are all in the game.

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
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    27 days ago

    What felt more realistic about it when compared to 25?

  • Never played NHL 14, personally. Only old gen NHL I've played was NHL 09 on PC using a keyboard to play,  so I'm not really sure how different the old games felt.

    I've always kinda been in the camp of, "EA just releases the same game every year, the old games were clearly better." So, out of curiosity, I went and replayed every NHL game from NHL 16 to now. I was blown away by how awful those old games were. The controls were sluggish, the skating felt completely terrible. Those games just felt VERY unresponsive. Then I went back to the more current games and it felt like going from horse and buggy to a Ferrari.

    I know these games aren't perfect, and I make sure to point out as many flaws with the current games as I can, but I think people look at these old games with rose-tinted glasses.

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    27 days ago

    Yep. Nostalgia will do that to you. I had a huge amount of fun with NHL 09 - 14. Those were amazing years. It wasn't necessarily the game though. I was a lot younger, my friends that played every night weren't married and didn't have families. We all had the time to play 1000+ games a year. We also didn't have the previous 16 years of online NHL games to compare it to. It's just a wildly different gaming world we live in compared to that time. 14 was a heck of a game for its time, but it wouldn't get the praise it often does if we released it today.

  • I know that when I throw out the old 'NHL 14 was better', It's hardly due to anything gameplay related. It has more to do with ease of use and quality of life stuff. 

    Lobbies, quick menus, GM Connected. EASHL was in its prime. 

    Gameplay itself was very floaty and players seemingly had no weight or momentum to them. It's night and day now for sure and like others have said - it's not perfect, but when you actually put those old games in your hand, you'll feel it right away. 

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