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dogheels's avatar
dogheels
Seasoned Ace
2 months ago

Ratings

Can anyone really say that ratings in this game have any significance at all. Cards are given original ratings as to the overall rating of the player. You play at different levels and the AI increases the rating of the card. Having a ton of cards out there means what regarding the cards rating. Just to be clear on this. Your rated player will play at that given rate. Its the AI player that has the adjustments made. One can argue its to equalise play. But its counter productive when you obtain cards because of ratings only to be equally matched against an inferior rated team. Watching 82 rated cards score goals from a wrist shot on the blue line against a 95 goalie. What does that say. The 82 card is obviously a better card than the 95? I have encountered lesser rated players ( playing on allstar)., match my 97 speed rated players. It also seems that all AI players have elite edges, since they seem to always skip by a check. Segment this game. Levels related to ratings. Not levels of play. 95 rated players in the 93-97 rated category as an example. At least you would be getting honesty in the actual ratings. As it is now. Its just a mirage of numbers. And just clarify. This comment is regarding offline play. 

9 Replies

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    2 months ago

    If you're consistently losing to 82s on All-Star when you have a substantially higher rated team, you may want to bump the difficulty down to Semi-Pro.

    You're always welcome to provide video showing your faster players getting beat by much slower players.

  • dogheels's avatar
    dogheels
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    Never said I was being beaten there Aljo. My comment was about ratings not being truthful. Best read my comment again. And regarding the video. You know as well as I. That the video produces no results. Videos have been sent in for various reasons. And nothing becomes of them. Just ask the community if anyone has experienced speed equalisation with lesser rated cards. That way. You at least have proof that its not a one out of the ordinary scenario.

  • Rockstaar80's avatar
    Rockstaar80
    Rising Traveler
    31 days ago

    dogheels​ im not trying to call you out as sometimes you bring up great points but you just seem so negative on things. Are you trying to have them change the overall rating on players depending on difficulty level? Is this a transparency thing that’s bothering you in this situation? I’m trying to understand what you’re trying to have changed here.EA_Aljo​ kinda said it already that if it’s to much of a challenge try a lower level and work your way up. 

  • dogheels's avatar
    dogheels
    Seasoned Ace
    31 days ago

    Np asking for my take. My comment is based on the premise that ratings on a card should play at that rating. What EA has done is. It creates levels of skill to compete at. Rookie Pro etc. You as an individual build your team up according to those ratings. The better the ratings. Usually a better performance. Now you play against a team whose rating is 86 overall. That team should play according to the ratings it was given. But instead, because of thes skill levels that are in place. That 86 rated team gets elevated with each skill level. Going back years ago. Ea had implemented a tier system based on skill level. Novices were grouped with similar players. Skilled players vice versa. It at least allowed you to play equally at the rating level that was established.  And there was an honest element to the rating. Not being jacked. This system they have in place now  when you think about it. Is somewhat bias

     In origin. It allows skilled players to reach goals much quicker than those that are not as skilled. As a new comer to the game. Do you think you would compete well against an AI team in superstar. Most likely not. And with this XP format they now have. Playing at a lower level. Takes several times longer. Its the same with the HUT moments. A gradual increase to superstar to get the final objective. Again. Being bias. Why I said to tier the ratings. Skilled players should be playing tougher rated teams. While novices can both learn and begin to excel at the lower levels. It was done before. No reason it can't be brought back. I know you have seen my comment as a negative retort against the game. And in a way it is. After playing this game for decades. It just becomes tiresome and bothering, to see them remove good elements of the game, and substituting it for inferior ones. 24s rewards system to this years as an example. Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate counter opinions. Only way to better evaluations. And as a side note. I use to play online. But the constant delay in matching opponents, and the backing outs. Became a bore. As for lowering my level. I play at superstar. Like I said. Been playing for a long time. And to be clear. This excerpt is not about me. Its garnered in support of those trying to learn this game. Not a fair playing field.

  • Rockstaar80's avatar
    Rockstaar80
    Rising Traveler
    30 days ago

    Sorry, I did want to mention to you my background. I’ve been playing since the first version on Sega Genesis and have owned every version from NHL hockey before it had a year ((think it was 1990) and the Euro version (can’t recall which came out first) and have owned every version since then. This is however my first year playing HUT and online. Hence some of my stupid questions. I do read each of your posts though and value what you’re saying just with little knowledge on what you’ve had to go through as far as HUT. Just hope your not taking any offense to any of my comments as they are honest questions and I’m not trying to call you out on anything at all. 

  • dogheels's avatar
    dogheels
    Seasoned Ace
    29 days ago

    Hey bud! All good here. Appreciate your feedback. And look forward to future interactions. Best of luck in your quests with HUT. And. Your questions and comments are not stupid. You are just exercising your opinion. I respect that!

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    28 days ago

    Never said I was being beaten there Aljo. My comment was about ratings not being truthful. Best read my comment again. And regarding the video. You know as well as I. That the video produces no results. Videos have been sent in for various reasons. And nothing becomes of them. Just ask the community if anyone has experienced speed equalisation with lesser rated cards. That way. You at least have proof that its not a one out of the ordinary scenario.

    There have been many videos over the years that have been used to make changes. I don't think you ever provide them so there's nothing we can do about the issues you're reporting. 

    You're making claims 82s are outperforming 95s without any evidence. If this was truly an issue, we'd have more reports of it. With video to back it up. The issue of slower players beating faster ones has coming up for several years. Out of all the videos we've received, there was one single time it was questionable. Which, was never replicated and could have been a bug or one time occurrence. We have received a ton of videos on this issue over the years and every other one showed it was due to the mechanics of skating. Meaning, they were turning while carrying the puck or the slower player had a step on them.

    If you want this investigated, you're going to need to provide video. Again, we'd have video evidence if this were real because it's been a hot topic with the community for many years, but has never been proven to actually exist. It comes down to a skill issue more than anything else.

  • dogheels's avatar
    dogheels
    Seasoned Ace
    28 days ago

    Taking offline play SBs as our example. On rookie. An 86 speed rated player performs at that rating. In superstar. What is his speed rating now? You contend that it isn't possible for inferior speed rated players to match or excel superior ones. Play the game. And watch how your higher rated D man can't catch a slower rated AI forward. And shouldn't that 86 speed rated player maintain his rating, regardless the level. No. He's jacked. Videos can't tell the whole story. Witnessing can. Play a game in SBs at superstar against an inferior rated team. Then tell me, you see no indifference. Also check HS182 and his comment, if you get a chance.

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    27 days ago

    Player ratings don't change with each difficulty. They have the same speed, hitting, endurance, etc. They play more aggressively though and make better decisions.

    Videos can't tell the whole story. Witnessing can. 

    I don't see how this is true. Video will show what is happening. You don't need to feel how the game plays to recognize a slower player outskating a faster one. We also rarely even get these videos so that also points to this being more of an issue with how someone plays.

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