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look at time 0:11 to 0:13. your telling me his stick NEVER made contact?
They are on the left side of the carrier. I'm not seeing where the stick is touching, but a better camera angle would clarify this. It's possible the stick was touching them, but it would be incidental and not intentional. The poke and stick lift both missed.
for one it SHOULD have and if it didn't it's because your game is MAKING IT NOT TO.
This is not happening. We are not forcing the stick not to make contact. If this happened with real human players, it's possible the defender could have angled their stick better. With this being a video game, that kind of fidelity with the stick isn't possible at the moment. There's no conspiracy here where we're specifically not allowing the defender to make a play.
true but again it SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING. the puck carrier acted liked no one was even there.
The carrier is focused on controlling the puck and getting a shot off. The defender wasn't making contact with them in any meaningful way. I don't see why they should really react to the defender when they aren't making any meaningful contact with them.
sorry but that's a load of crap as well. I've tried "shoving" them from behind but it's the same. it's like I'm a fly on their back. nothing happens. if it does, all it is is they "act" like they stumble but regain control in a micro second and do the same, score. do you not watch REAL hockey? I've seen defenders with their sticks all the way in front of the puck carrier, keeping up with them and causing SOMETHING to happen where the shot is not perfect. nearly every shot the AI does (other team that is) is perfect no matter what happens to them and that includes passes as well. and this video tells it all. this is what happens 90% of the time. and we shouldn't have to send 1 million videos for you to see it is a problem.
I've seen plenty of shoves work from behind. No, not every time. And that doesn't exactly seem unrealistic. Again, being a video game, it's not going to work exactly the same as it does in the real world. You just don't have the same control over the stick as an actual human player.
AI players have excellent vision. They tend to make passes/shots when they have open lanes. Unlike many humans who try to force passes through traffic, spam pokes/stick lifts, focus on "glitch" shots, aren't using hockey plays to generate time and space, etc. AI play more like actual hockey players instead of humans that look more to exploit the AI for their best chances at winning.
I'm not saying the game is perfect and your clip is a good example of that. It's not the best angle, but I'm assuming the defender's stick didn't actually contact the puck. We need a better angle to know for sure, but we can't tell if the puck was hit and not just the stuck. If the puck had been hit, it would have reacted and in this case it didn't. Regardless, the stick on stick contact should have made a bigger impact here.
AI play more like actual hockey players instead of humans
that might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard, have you ever decided to not pick a team and watch the ai “attempt” to play a game against each other? It’s an embarrassing excuse for what’s supposed to be a hockey game.
also just straight up like the clip just clearly shows a position where a defending player should have influenced the possession, and plain and simply the most realistic way to do that in hockey was through a stick check or poke check and in some way or another your game doesn’t award a correct defensive decision for no good reason. There’s many cases of this happening because defense is a complete mess pretty much 24/7 in this game. Like you’re not helping the game get better by burying your head in the sand a pretending it’s not a problem. Also just straight up diving as a defender there is just not a realistic option at all and neither is a shove because the defender shouldn’t have leverage in that situation, the CORRECT way to defend that scoring chance is a poke check and your game doesn’t reward that.
- EA_Aljo13 hours ago
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that might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard, have you ever decided to not pick a team and watch the ai “attempt” to play a game against each other? It’s an embarrassing excuse for what’s supposed to be a hockey game.
I'm not saying they are perfect all the time. Obviously, there are times AI is behaving in ways it shouldn't be. They will generally play realistically though. Looking for good pass/shot chances, staying in position, adjusting their strategies, etc.
I haven't watched a game of 2 AI teams playing each other though. If you've got clips showing poor play, feel free to post them. Regarding the OP's clip though, I'm not seeing an issue with this.
plain and simply the most realistic way to do that in hockey was through a stick check or poke check and in some way or another your game doesn’t award a correct defensive decision for no good reason.
in that situation, the CORRECT way to defend that scoring chance is a poke check and your game doesn’t reward that.
I've seem complaints that poke checks are too strong from behind as well. Regardless, every poke or lift isn't going to be successful. There was a low percentage chance of these actually working in the video the OP provided. The best defensive play would have been to not let a breakaway happen to begin with though. Obviously, it's got a very high chance of scoring. Diving is risky, but was another option here. So is trying to shove from behind. Neither of which were attempted. This isn't burying my head in the sand. It's pretty clear to see they missed the poke and lift. The stick may have glanced off their leg, pushing it away from the puck. Unfortunately, the video isn't from the best angle to see this.