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EA_Aljo
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6 years ago

Re: I am so, so, SO sick of EA's connection problems. CONSTANT disconnects.

@kwyjiboS2 

With a game like NHL, rubber banding would make the game near impossible to play. If you have high latency, you'll probably see this happen. Once your connection gets too bad though, the disconnect will occur.

An FPS typically doesn't have an object like a puck that is continually in play. You shoot a gun and there's a beginning point and end point. It's a lot less complicated than a puck that is reacting to players, equipment and the environment. In order for it to be properly updated for both players, you're going to need a solid connection. It doesn't have to be fast. It just has to be stable and have a decent ping. My ping is normally around 40 ms and I'm not getting any lag. However, when I was on a wireless connection with about 15 feet between my system and the router, I regularly lagged and disconnected. That could have been due to multiple wireless devices in my home as well. Once I switched to a wire, all of that went away. I also switched to using my own router and modem instead of the combo unit my ISP provided. I researched it and found out they were known to have issues and not be good for gaming. 

I understand the dangers associated with stretching a wire across a room. I've been doing this for years and there have been a few times it's been tripped on. Thankfully my pets ignore it. I can see how that might be an issue for some curious animals though.

If you do some research on wireless, I think you'll find a lot of information backing up how it's not a suitable connection for gaming. Hopefully, when 802.11 ax is more common, that won't be so much of an issue. I understand you're skeptical when every support person tells you wireless is the problem, but keep in mind, we troubleshoot these issues all day, every day. The overwhelming majority of those connection issue cases are from people on wireless. Hopefully, the Powerline helps. I know it has worked for some. I'd switch if I could trust them, but my wired connection is just too solid to give up.

The error message means you lost your connection to Xbox Live. You'll see that when you're trying to play digital content. It can't be verified you own it without being online. That also could mean there's an outage with Xbox Live though. It would be good to check their status page here if it repeatedly happens - https://beta.support.xbox.com/xbox-live-status.

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  • That makes a lot of sense. You guys should seriously consider finding a way to get a concise version of this displayed to people having these issues. Like I said, it's so easy to ignore this advice because it's rarely the major culprit with other games. You also usually don't interact like this with CS people, either. Most of the time it's just a random person in a call center, reading from a script.

    Rubberbanding isn't a big deal when it's transient, and only affects you for a second or two. The issue I have is afterwards, when the input starts lagging. A half-second delay starts, and usually lasts the rest of the game, though sometimes it clears up at the next whistle. Kind of a crap shoot.

    I adopted a new cat a couple months ago who loves to gnaw on string-like things. Already had to buy a new guitar cable!

    Just finished seeing if the 60 minute thing would repeat. So far, I've been logged in for about an hour and a half, so it's nothing concrete. Perhaps just a coincidence, but now that I think about it, most people haven't come home from work yet... I'm going to pay attention to the time of day when issues arise. I'm starting to wonder if interference is a problem when everyone's home and on their wireless devices.

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    EA_Aljo
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    6 years ago

    @kwyjiboS2 

    The reason why it sounds like people are reading from a script is because there's usually only a handful of things that can be tested. We have to go through each of those to help narrow down what the cause could be. We don't actually use scripts. We just go through a trial and error process until we're out of options.

    Are you on a wireless connection that is shared by others in your building? Not just others that might be in your home, but more of a community wireless connection? If so, it's certainly possible others coming home in the evening could be using up bandwidth that will then affect your connection.

  • No, it's not a shared connection. I'm thinking more in terms of attempted connections, and the fact that I'm literally surrounded by WAPs.

    The more devices there are nearby, the more resources my router has to use to acknowledge and reject them.

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    EA_Aljo
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    6 years ago

    @kwyjiboS2 

    Thanks for clearing that up. Something else you might want to do is change the wireless channel your console is on. That might help. Hopefully the Powerline is a big improvement though.

  • @EA_Aljo Definitely hope so. I've also been doing a little measuring, and I might be able to feed a cable along the wall, at the perimeter of the room. We shall see.

    Once we crack this, I plan to go through our posts here and "Accept" the one that explains the issue/fix the best. 🙂
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    6 years ago

    @kwyjiboS2 

    Sounds good. Just get in touch again when you have some news. Thanks!

  • I was hoping I'd have this settled by now, but no. I do have news, though.

    The powerline thing was a bust. My condo is wired such that the two outlets I'd have to use are not on the same circuit.

    I found a 50 foot Cat 7 ethernet cable for fairly cheap, and it has shielding that's supposed to make it fray and tear resistant, so I fed that along the wall around the room. Cats hate citrus, so I rubbed a little orange oil on it, too. Seems to work, and is acceptable as a long term solution.

    Unfortunately, I haven't been able to test the connection because my controller's left stick broke from pushing down too hard/much. New one's coming today.

    I did browse the menus some, though. No lost connections, but a couple of those messages from above about not owning the game. I plan to contact Microsoft about that next time it happens.

    Finally, I'm dead serious when I say that you guys would benefit from putting a disclaimer in that "Lost Connection" message. Something like, "NOTE: This game is particularly sensitive to lapses in connectivity. If you are on wireless, it is strongly recommended you switch to a wired connection if possible." I'd bet money that you'd see a decrease in complaints, and it would give you something to point at if people do complain.

  • This game is crap online. Every second game my players skate in mud, and freezing then catch up animations. Just pointless to play on these servers. Done with this and future titles

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    EA_Aljo
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    6 years ago

    @kwyjiboS2 

    Thanks for the feedback on a message about being wireless. I'll pass that on. 

    It's good you're seeing improvement though. Let me know how it goes. We're pretty short-handed during the holidays so I may not be able to respond until next week.

  • @EA_Aljo It looks like my new setup will work, and it's apparently effective. I've only had one disconnect in the last two days that wasn't related to Live having issues. Thank you for all your help!

    Hope you and yours have a wonderful holiday season!

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    EA_Aljo
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    6 years ago

    @kwyjiboS2 

    Great! I'm so glad to hear this! It's always frustrating to see a fellow NHL player not be able to play without disconnecting. If you have any more issues, please let us know. Have fun and good luck!

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