Gameplay wise Grid Legends is a step in the right direction. The handling is much better and more forgiving than in GRID 2019.In the presentation videos from last year, Codemasters made clear they wanted to make the races feel more spectacular.This is certainly true if you compare GRID Legends to GRID 2019, thanks to the random events during the race combined with the nemesis system .After the race you can watch a replay and this is where GRID Legends falls short if you compare it to GRID 2008.The TV camera in GRID Legends (and also in GRID 2019) feels dull because it's always the same type of camera.That same TV camera in GRID 2008 was switching between all kinds of viewpoints and almost felt like you were watching a car chase movie.The cars could cause shakes and once in a while you could see the driver from an in-car camera.I understand that in-car cameras were not possible in GRID 2 and GRID Autosport due to the absence of detailed interiors but the replays in those games were still interesting to watch.The replays in GRID Legends could really use that dynamic feel from the 'old' games.I hope Codemasters will take a look at this.

Bumping up the topic.Game is already v3.3, but the problem is still there.Though it looks like it is more a problem how the game chose the camera for the current moment. I played a time race one time it start switching to another cameras (at least internal) but then it again dropped back to side track only.99% it only shows track side.It is pity, since older GRID games and Grid Legends have a very beautiful and alive world, that is not visible at all when the camera shows only from track side. Even GRID 2019 had a better replay camera.

You can't also rotate the replay camera, at all.In GRID 2 and Autosport, using the chase view, you had 360 degree free camera rotation, so you could take some really nice pictures from the race.In 2019 and Lengeds the thumbstick is just dead, you can't adjust any of the replay cams.This makes me not even bothering to view the replays anymore.

"This makes me not even bothering to view the replays anymore."That last sentence is exactly what worries me.Next time Codemasters might as well remove replays because "no one is watching them".They removed car interiors in GRID 2 because too few people were playing from internal views.GRID replays used to make you feel like you were a much better driver than you actually are.I know Codemasters still can make decent replays, just look at the DiRT series.The replays in DiRT are still fun to watch.

In the original post, I wrote that the TV cameras in replays in GRID 2019 were always the same type.I checked this today and I was wrong. The replays in the previous game are also using different perspectives (fixed and in-car cameras included).It appears the replay cameras in GRID 2008 and GRID 2019 are not that different, but the difference in pace between both games changes everything.Once in a while I boot up GRID 2008 and do a single race on the San Francisco Grand Prix track with a Koenigsegg in ninja difficulty and watch that replay afterwards.It is so rewarding. Since GRID 2019 also has replays with different camera types, it makes me wonder why GRID Legends doesn't.

Onboard cameras seem to be in the game because you can see one in action on the GRID Legends store page on Steam.It's the gif image with the Cobras in the "ABOUT THIS GAME" section.Check the image in attachment.I am starting to think that the replays are not as good as intended.Please Codemasters, take a look at this, the replays are so boring in their current state.

Replays have lost their cinematic feel since the original GRID

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painisawarning
4 years ago
You can't also rotate the replay camera, at all.
In GRID 2 and Autosport, using the chase view, you had 360 degree free camera rotation, so you could take some really nice pictures from the race.
In 2019 and Lengeds the thumbstick is just dead, you can't adjust any of the replay cams.
This makes me not even bothering to view the replays anymore.
Captain_Iglo_83
4 years ago
"This makes me not even bothering to view the replays anymore."
That last sentence is exactly what worries me.
Next time Codemasters might as well remove replays because "no one is watching them".
They removed car interiors in GRID 2 because too few people were playing from internal views.
GRID replays used to make you feel like you were a much better driver than you actually are.
I know Codemasters still can make decent replays, just look at the DiRT series.
The replays in DiRT are still fun to watch.
Captain_Iglo_83
4 years ago
In the original post, I wrote that the TV cameras in replays in GRID 2019 were always the same type.
I checked this today and I was wrong. The replays in the previous game are also using different perspectives (fixed and in-car cameras included).
It appears the replay cameras in GRID 2008 and GRID 2019 are not that different, but the difference in pace between both games changes everything.
Once in a while I boot up GRID 2008 and do a single race on the San Francisco Grand Prix track with a Koenigsegg in ninja difficulty and watch that replay afterwards.
It is so rewarding. Since GRID 2019 also has replays with different camera types, it makes me wonder why GRID Legends doesn't.
Captain_Iglo_83
4 years ago
Onboard cameras seem to be in the game because you can see one in action on the GRID Legends store page on Steam.
It's the gif image with the Cobras in the "ABOUT THIS GAME" section.
Check the image in attachment.
I am starting to think that the replays are not as good as intended.
Please Codemasters, take a look at this, the replays are so boring in their current state.
Captain_Iglo_83
4 years ago
In GRID Legends the camera rotation is not available when the replay is paused.
When the replay is running, you can rotate the chase camera as much as you want.
The chase camera in GRID 2019 has the exact same behaviour.
In GRID2 and GRID Autosport, I confirm you are able to rotate the chase camera during pauses in replays, just like you described.
Isamu99
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
Is it possible to even save your replay after a race....in single player and/or multiplayer?
painisawarning
4 years ago
@Isamu99 No.
Captain_Iglo_83
4 years ago
There was a save feature in some previous Codemasters games (Dirt 3 for example and I believe Grid Autosport had it too), but it was straight to youtube.
In the past games, I watched the replays all the time, but the replays feel broken in this one.
The zoomed drive-by camera is very boring to watch because of the lack of perspective and speed sensation.
That camera perspective also tends to show graphical bugs like disappearing shadows in the distance.
It makes the game look bad.
Every single Codemasters race game before Legend did a better job at making those replays enjoyable to watch.
Captain_Iglo_83
4 years ago
I hope the v2.0 patch will bring the replays to the level of the previous entries.
T16R0N
3 years ago
Bumping up the topic.
Game is already v3.3, but the problem is still there.
Though it looks like it is more a problem how the game chose the camera for the current moment. I played a time race one time it start switching to another cameras (at least internal) but then it again dropped back to side track only.
99% it only shows track side.
It is pity, since older GRID games and Grid Legends have a very beautiful and alive world, that is not visible at all when the camera shows only from track side. Even GRID 2019 had a better replay camera.