@RodSirloin There's no reason why the game cannot cater to all levels though, which is the main point I was trying to convey.
@Noya_Wesa wrote:@RodSirloin There's no reason why the game cannot cater to all levels though, which is the main point I was trying to convey.
It's nice to see an adult in the room. And I fully agree with what you are saying. It appears that the developers underestimated the skillsets of those playing this game.
Making some adjustments to include everyone doesn't seem unreasonable.
@RodSirloin For someone that said 2K is trash, I wouldn’t say you were being reasonable
Fact is that EA have made a golf game that is overly simplistic and doesn’t at all cater for those who wish to be challenged. This straight away reduces the player base. Difficulty levels need expanding greatly to ensure all ability levels are catered for. I’ve found that it’s far too simple to swing on plane, hit fairways, fit greens with approaches, control distance with shots, and even putts are little too simple. It also has to be said that shots from compromising lies aren’t penalised enough. A shot from thick rough still goes at least 96% of the distance? 2K nails it with swing plane and tempo even if they mix the effects up for the sake of the game. Literally the ONLY thing EA does better than 2K is having the majors licenced.
As a golfer thats better than the average bear, I can see EA make the game of golf look too easy. It was supposed to be the most realistic golf game out there and golf as a sport is extremely challenging but i can honestly say I’ve had a more challenging and realistic game of golf on Everybody’s Golf VR. EA needs to offer more levels of challenge and it’s clear the developers have either aimed the game at just casuals or have never player the game of golf before.
@drewgriffithsI played the free play days on Xbox and 2k23 is complete trash. GUI, to graphics, to music, to swing mechanics, to putting, it’s complete trash.
I honestly can’t believe HB Studios is unable to improve. It’s their worst golf game to date. Look at the reviews and let them speak for themselves.
With that said, what’s unreasonable from me? I’m an end-user with a plethora of experience and citing not only myself, but also the voices of countless people that unfortunately paid for 2k lol.
Those that wish for extreme challenge are a minute % of the EA player base so it’s not accurate to say it’s hurting sales. Making the game easier clearly speaks to a wider player base…it’s basic business. It’s always been that way, make it easier more new players are likey to buy your game.
Also, this is EA’s hardest game to date. I never missed putts in TW like I do now and I was ranked very well then so I clearly have a high level of experience to reference. At my worst, my record was like 250-10.
2k doesn’t nail anything, it’s terrible from top to bottom. All the negative reviews agree with me that the swing mechanics are terrible. Don’t take my word, have a look for yourself.
I’ve played both and if you think EA doesn’t trump 2k on every level, we have nothing more to discuss.
@RodSirloin wrote:
@ELF014“It's nice to see an adult in the room.”
Now we’re doing attacks because someone is resisting and being reasonable?
You could stop attacking 2k golf it's getting old.
Check it out. 
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@puntasThanks that is a long thread, too much for me to read every post.
But I already play with a character that has no skill points or specs. It is a level 67, I don't use any swing meters or putt previews and other than wid direction and the green grids I have everything disabled I can.
In career mode the AI is set to 100, and I think the scores showing after 4 full rounds seem reasonable. But I still win ever tournament running away. I may not be leading after 2 rounds, but by the third I am leading.
I don't think I am particularly great at this game. I think in general I manage the course well, but the game is extremely easy.
Thanks for the link, but there really isn't much there I have not tried. I have learned to accept the randomness off the tee box and managed my way to the green. Because of my limited shot selections, depending on the yardage I will often layup to a yardage rather than having to hit a partial club into a green.
In my opinion, they need to address the ball physics, the greens need to roll out more on putts. The rough needs to be much more penal, especially since they have included several lengths you can set. The ball should have less spin out of the rough, have plugged balls in the bunkers when warranted. Option to disable the reticule, it basically allows you to hit the ball where you want.
Distance should be controlled by loft and length/speed of swing and not a pointing device.
I'm fine with having it for those that want it, but give the option to those looking for a more challenging experience.
In 2K we disable as much as we can, and it is fun to eyeball your shots/putts and to not have a bulls eye available to you. It adds another layer to the game.
