EA golf too arcady
Almost no skill involved in this game. Rough and bunkers have no penalty. Ball still goes distance you aim no loss of yardage no math involved. Example: if i am in the rough and aim 150 yards. My bal...
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@CkYMaximus wrote:Anyhoo went back to 2K.
Still posting on the forums a day later.
I'll never understand people's need to embarass themselves by announcing to strangers on the internet they are "done with a game" on the games forum.
Only to continue hanging around which just doubles the embarrassment and just furthers your low effort post lifestyle.
Go play 2K...its okay man. Nobody cares.
90% of the community isn't coming in 1st every tournament, yes the game is "easy" the skill gap is about mastering course conditions and how your clubs will behave on them.
If I remember correctly, if you add in the game before this most recent 2K it has taken them 3-4 years to have the modes and rank system they have.
This game needs some additions but the foundation is fantastic.
@Sneakler Just because someone isn't playing the game doesn't mean they don't have something to contribute.
You have acknowledged that the game is easy... I always thought the idea was to score as low as you can?
Actually 2K23 was released in October and Ranked play I believe was released some time in March... so it is more like 6 months. But it was probably precipitated by the imminent release of EA's game.
THE GOLF CLUB was released in 2014 so the franchise has had about 10 years of history. EA however built their first golf game back in 1990, so they have 33 years of history. Granted they left the market for about 8 years, but they also got to review what 2K had built while developing their current game.
So if you take everything into account, it is a bit of an incomplete effort.
You have acknowledged that the game is easy... I always thought the idea was to score as low as you can?
Actually 2K23 was released in October and Ranked play I believe was released some time in March... so it is more like 6 months. But it was probably precipitated by the imminent release of EA's game.
THE GOLF CLUB was released in 2014 so the franchise has had about 10 years of history. EA however built their first golf game back in 1990, so they have 33 years of history. Granted they left the market for about 8 years, but they also got to review what 2K had built while developing their current game.
So if you take everything into account, it is a bit of an incomplete effort.
@ELF014 wrote:
@SneaklerJust because someone isn't playing the game doesn't mean they don't have something to contribute.What exactly did he contribute?
There is a difference then a rant and complaining followed with the tired old "back to 2k" line...
It's just whining that they didn't build their game the way "I WANTED IT WAHHHH" which I just don't understand.
The game is challenging for alot of people, and for the higher skilled players it becomes a quest for perfection.
I am not some slappy who is saying this is a perfect game in any way, I have been roasting the devs and public relations crew for not communicating their intentions on turn-based play their most requested feature.
I just think rants/whining followed by a I am going to play 2k is just sad and embarrassing True low effort stuff right there...
- @Sneakler He contributed his opinion of the game. Just because you don't agree with his point doesn't mean it is irrelevant.
Do you what I dislike? People that whine about people they think are whining. If people don't like what is posted, move on to the next thread. I never understood how posting disparaging comments was positive for anyone.
@ELF014 wrote:
@SneaklerHe contributed his opinion of the game. Just because you don't agree with his point doesn't mean it is irrelevant.Do you understand the difference between constructive criticism/providing solutions and the definition of a rant and/or what is commonly referred to these days as a sh*t post?
Do you think anybody on these forum cares or needs to know that the guy hasn't played the game in a week and its back to 2K for him? There is nothing I can agree with or disagree with that is just irrelevant information that has nothing to do with his post.
Is this what you consider to be an "opinion" because news flash...that isnt an opinion, its someone being a complete tool on the internet...
The reason my timeline for comparing 2k21 and 2k23 it was not out of convenience for my argument it's the timeline that makes the most sense. They use the same engine, same gameplay, imported former created courses...etc.
Took them a very long time to get where they are currently because I played 2k21...got to the point where I played once every 3 days because Alternate Shot teams was only in the Playlist once every three days.
EA has some work to do but if they just get turn based in the game in the next 30 days I'll be happy. Fancy ranking system down the road sure...but turn based alternate shot is all I really care about. Game is great.
@ELF014 wrote:
THE GOLF CLUB was released in 2014 so the franchise has had about 10 years of history. EA however built their first golf game back in 1990, so they have 33 years of history. Granted they left the market for about 8 years, but they also got to review what 2K had built while developing their current game.Now keep in mind I only consider their most recent two games, the second game being a total cash grab with Tiger Woods being their cover athlete.
A quick search and here is some discussion when PGA 2k23 released. These are just some cherry picked comments I see in this thread about a few peoples opinions on the game. I personally believed it was the same game, that they later build on under threat of EA releasing a game.l
The following comments...there are hundreds of them to pick from but alot of them speak a similar story:
I regret buying it in advance. I should have waited for a month or six after it got discounted and patched into a playable state. Instead, I ended up paying a premium for all the bugs.I bought it and asked for a refund after an hour of playing. Not worth the money and the improvement over 2K21 is negligible in my opinion, they have recycled so much stuff and also removed many things. I refunded and will only buy again if under $30
It’s the laziest 2 year project I’ve seen in gaming in a long time. It’s not even close to next gen graphics. Disregarding graphics which don’t really matter imo, there’s nothing to play for. No ranked means I’m already done. +11 handicap and beat the tour events, societies are dead. I dunno. It’s lazy AF. It’s the same bland game it was in 21 and golf club before it.
slapping a new coat of paint on it, introducing about a dozen major bugs and calling it a day....
At least add some competitive game modes for longevities sake. All they did was add a way to upgrade clubs…. For money lol
Its the most bugged $60 game I’ve ever played at release. I think it will be a big upgrade from 2k21 once they fix everything but until they make updates I’m just gonna use my time playing something else.
- @Sneakler So you are cherry picking what you want debate, as in only the last two game.
Granted 2K23 was not a huge update over 2K21, but there are some significant changes though subtle. The major one that comes to mind is how much more the ball rolls out on the greens for both longer irons and putting.
But if you want to make this argument the mechanics of this game is not much different than the previous Tiger Woods game. To me it just feels like an updated TW2014, with some things added and others removed.
I would consider myself a competent but not elite player, and this game is easy. Sonce day one I set the difficulty to the highest level, but with the green grids enabled. I have commented several.times I don't feel you can display a 3D environment on a 2D screen.
I do not remember shooting over par with this game yet. I have played without the grid 3 times and shot 5 under each time but didn't enjoy the experience.
The game is easy... the difficulty is mainly in the randomness of the RNG. I get punished with good swings and rewarded for bad ones.
There is little for me in this game now. I hit the ball in a general direction, let the RNG determine where the ball lands and hit my next shot rinse and repeat.
If I land on the green I will either make the putt or 2 putt and go to the next hole. Because of the putting mechanics you can always pretty much hit the distance you want. And once you understand how slope and direction works in the game you can always lag to within about 3 feet of the pin.
If you don't land on the green, it is a simple flop or pick shot, short putt and off to the next tee box.
Unless I am just off the green with a relatively flat lie the flag. In that case I may try to chip the ball in the hole.
Note if I am flopping or hitting a pick shot I won't try to sink the shot as hitting the flagstick is normally very penal.
So in short I agree with the OP that the game is quite arcadey, long shots into a green roll out too far, and wedges spin often way too much even when delofting the club.
And that RNG seems to take precedence over user input.
I can play through a round in EA's game quickly because there is very little thinking. I hit the ball, once near the green I will switch to a flop shot from the rough or pick from the bunker, sink the putt and move on.
At least on 2K I need to be aware that I cannot be above the hole if the green is sloping away from me.
EA looks good, and the career mode is pretty well executed if you turn off the commentary. But because of the difficulty and playing mechanics the experience is lacking.
The game has potential but it just is not their yet for the sim player. This is an arcade game dressed up as something more.
