Pronoun selection Road to the masters

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See information on Returns and Cancellations here:

http://help.ea.com/en/article/returns-and-cancellations/

Hi Barry,

I followed the link you provided to request a refund but was unable to proceed as I was given the message:

"You don't have any games that qualify for a refund right now." (see attached screenshot)

Given that I can't even make it by the player creation screen properly with my son, nor do I want my son running the risk of creating his own player and running into a "micro form" of indoctrination of gender ideology, what would you suggest?  You think EA would make a refund exception given I've put no more than 5 minutes into the game (and haven't even swung a club)?

Alternatively, if EA can provide my wife and I (and arguably other parents) with an child friendly explanation of the "they/them" pronoun, I would perhaps reconsider my request.  We used to get manuals with games that would explain such things but that is unfortunately no longer the case.  I believe the game is rated E for everyone so clearly someone at EA must feel comfortable explaining this option to a 7 year old right?

Let me know, thanks,

Martin

Obviously you're not living in Canada under Prime Minister Trudeau, in some province, they teach that stuff as early as kindergarten. Trudeau is even shaming province Premier as intolerant for forcing teachers to tell parents if their young son John wants to be called Julia at school for the protection of the child.  No choice but to have those difficult conversations before they went to school. I just feel fortunate my 3 children wants to be boy and girls as they were born, even if some would probably say it makes me a bad mother.

@Katybee_1313I'm not a prude but corporations should "NOT" force us too chose a pronoun.  IMHO

Why do you feel you need to have a conversation about it with your 7-year old?

A seven-year-old isn't even going to notice, much less care about something like this.  They are just happy to play a game with a parent at that age.

The only reason you care is because Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or Fox News told you to care.  Turn all that crap off and you will live a much happier life.

Hi,

That's the point, I don't want to have a conversation about it with my 7-year old (nor do many parents I know).

I assure you, there is a very good chance my son would notice and ask me about it.  Indoctrination of children/kids (and arguably adults) happens in small doses... pronouns is your first step towards confusion and exposure to this ideology.  No thanks EA.  If they can at least toggle it on and off for parents in a game rated E for everyone, then that would be more acceptable.

Hopefully we hear back from Barry (EA community member).

So then don't have the conversation.  You are the parent.  You can certainly shut down any questions your kid has or indoctrinate your kid in whatever manner you see fit. 

And if you don't want to shut your kid down, on the minimal chance your kids asks about a they/them pronoun, you could simply say "Some people like to be called by different things."  And if the kid says "Why?"  You can simply and truthfully give the answer most can give:  "I don't know.  I don't really understand."

Nah, I won't lie to my kids by saying I don't understand it. It is indoctrination and the path to brainwashing (as harmless as pronoun selection may seem). There is a time and place to have that conversation and would prefer they are much older when it takes place.  Most kids understand the definition of boy and girl based on their reproductive organs (I wouldn't call sticking to that definition indoctrination as it has pretty much been the standard definition, for I don't know, probably a few thousand years).

Anyway, very curious to see how Barry will respond.  Left him a few questions above.

@SlimDown57Because when we play the game, specially career mode, the announcers are referring us as he or she, and I suppose they have something for they/them if somebody doesn't want to pick either he or she. It's the only reason, what the announcers are going to use in the game.