Re: Feedback on PGA Tours "Pro Pass"

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@NIGHTSTOCKER59 wrote:

What a waste of a update , nothing worth wild except playing one round tournaments, pro pass a total waste, ball phyics still terrible, i play tournament at tera ita and fairways were like ice .

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I kind of have to agree with you. I didn't ask for single round tournaments... I actually feel 2 round tournaments would make more sense to bring the cut into play. But I'm not opposed to providing more options to everyone.

I don't get the Pro Pass as just a way to make more revenue for EA. The already had a way to earn VC, XP and items through the challenges. As well as a store.

I personally feel the time spent creating the Pro Pass would have been better spent in the short comings of the game (gameplay and ball physics would be a good place to start).

It would be nice to get a few more levels of difficulty added to the game as well and presets that don't hold your hands with all the aids enabled. Why does the SIM preset have a swing meter enabled, and why does it override my personal settings?

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@ELF014 wrote:

I don't get the Pro Pass as just a way to make more revenue for EA. The already had a way to earn VC, XP and items through the challenges. As well as a store.

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Even for those who don't want to pay for the Premium tier, the free tier has actually added back in a form of progression to work through that was missing otherwise for everyone who had got their player to level 50. There have certainly been a fair few players post here to wish there was something more to aim at. For those struggling to earn Tickets via the Tournaments section the Pro Pass has also added in an additional source of these, and of additional Reward Points too come to that. I'm not suggesting this is some huge game-changer but it doesn't seem totally without merit either. 

I was personally surprised something like Pro Pass wasn't in the game from launch, and from the following video it was clear that it had always been planned:

https://youtu.be/S4_kX973Z6o

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@-Roasted513- wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77the "reward" from the pass are a joke, its not even worth doing, 3200 total coins if you buy the pass, 4 tokens if you buy the pass, thats a slap in the face. shouldve been at least 10 tickets and double the coins. ea have NO idea what they are doing

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The total rewards are MUCH more than that. Not quite sure what you're looking at. You realise it scrolls right up to level 60?

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@ELF014 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77I thought it went to level 70?

I had a quick look... and for me the Pro Pass is much to do about nothing. It basically pays out TICKETS, VC, some SPEC's that no one will really want except maybe the one at level 70. Which I think was currently available in the store. And a few cosmetic items if you are willing to pay real money for to open up the paid version.

If you have maxed out your character which most of us have and you don't play the tournaments; what does the Pro Pass really offer?

It seems completing the Pro Pass is a pretty quick exercise, and then the Daily and Weekly Quests will be a moot point as well until the Season 2 Pro Pass.

Obviously this may have been always intended to be in the game, but like much of what is built in not very well thought out.

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I don't have the game in front of me so assume you're right it's 70. Best I could think is @ragingsaint hadn't scrolled right?

I hadn't seen the top spec in the store and actually think it would be nice if it wasn't, at least for a long time. It wasn't there yesterday but I've not looked today.

What it gives players at level 50 (which I am btw) is some tickets, reward points and the new top iron spec. Plus cosmetics if people pay for premium (which I likely won't). May as well use the tickets to enter a tournament, and the reward points can be used to buy cosmetics, or specs if don't already have your favourites.

How quick pro pass is to complete will depend how much the points needed increase by level so I'm not sure yet. It needs to be achievable for most and so those who play loads will no doubt say they completed it quickly.

@Ultrasonic_77From what I saw last night... and I am only on now to play with friends. Is that you are being paid out through Daily and Weekly Quests. It looks like there are multiple Daily and Weekly Quests... the Daily ones are worth 100 Pro Pass points each, the Weeklies between 300 and 400 points.

By the way I cleared all the Daily Quests last night playing one round of Matchplay.

The levels appear to need 150 points each... so you need a total of around 10,500 points over 40 something days? I don't have the game on in front of me. That is an average of about 250 Pro Pass points a day. I think there were 7 Daily Quests on the board last night... so I cleared 700 points with another 700 available for the Weekly ones... where the timer looks like it was only set for 3 days (again from memory).

For me the Pro Pass is much about nothing... there is nothing there of much value if you have played the game for any amount of time.

The spec at the is moot because it really isn't needed to score well. The characters are already so overpowered I'm not sure a few more skill points matters anymore.

I don't think it is enough to squeeze anymore out of the game... a 39 is the limit no matter how much better the specs are (I'm saying this with sarcasm, and an ounce of truth).

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@ELF014 wrote:

@Ultrasonic_77From what I saw last night... and I am only on now to play with friends. Is that you are being paid out through Daily and Weekly Quests. It looks like there are multiple Daily and Weekly Quests... the Daily ones are worth 100 Pro Pass points each, the Weeklies between 300 and 400 points.

By the way I cleared all the Daily Quests last night playing one round of Matchplay.

The levels appear to need 150 points each... so you need a total of around 10,500 points over 40 something days? I don't have the game on in front of me. That is an average of about 250 Pro Pass points a day. I think there were 7 Daily Quests on the board last night... so I cleared 700 points with another 700 available for the Weekly ones... where the timer looks like it was only set for 3 days (again from memory).

For me the Pro Pass is much about nothing... there is nothing there of much value if you have played the game for any amount of time.

The spec at the is moot because it really isn't needed to score well. The characters are already so overpowered I'm not sure a few more skill points matters anymore.

I don't think it is enough to squeeze anymore out of the game... a 39 is the limit no matter how much better the specs are (I'm saying this with sarcasm, and an ounce of truth).

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The levels in the pro pass require progressively more tokens each level.  I’m only through level 20, but I think  that level required 400 or so tokens.  You also earn tokens through career, online, and tournaments modes at a rate of 20 a hole. 

Overall, I believe the pro pass is providing far more value (between vc, tickets, best iron spec in the game) than the dailys and weekly’s used to.  If you want to make use of the xp and have a maxed toon, then make a new toon and claim the rewards with it. 

Now all that said, would I have rather seen turn based stroke play, or two created toon couch mode instead of pro pass?  Absolutely!   But I’m not going to poo poo a change that is decent and also probably needed to support the game over the long haul.  With there not being a 2024 version due to this being a live service, they need to create a method other than just cosmetics that will be a consistent revenue stream….

@7AnimalMother wrote:

 

The levels in the pro pass require progressively more tokens each level.  I’m only through level 20, but I think  that level required 400 or so tokens.  You also earn tokens through career, online, and tournaments modes at a rate of 20 a hole.

If this is the case, then my mistake... I can only respond based on what I have seen so far and from my experience, and so far every level advanced by 150 Pro Pass Points... but I'm still near the start.

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@ELF014 wrote:

@7AnimalMother wrote:

 

The levels in the pro pass require progressively more tokens each level.  I’m only through level 20, but I think  that level required 400 or so tokens.  You also earn tokens through career, online, and tournaments modes at a rate of 20 a hole.

If this is the case, then my mistake... I can only respond based on what I have seen so far and from my experience, and so far every level advanced by 150 Pro Pass Points... but I'm still near the start.

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I'm fairly certain level 2 took more points than level 1 actually. Think I'm at about level 10 but think there's probably been a points increment for each level. The equivalent in the F1 games definitely does and increasingly EA seem to be bringing similar fundamental mechanics to all games.

It makes sense to need progressively more points for each level to be fair too. Easier progression early on to get people interested, but still provide a longer term challenge.

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@ELF014 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77I'm pretty sure it was still showing 150 last night when I looked. I think I'm at level 7. I might be it changes at every 10th level.

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I'm home now so able to check my notes. I was trying to keep track of the early levels as I was curious what the progression might be. It definitely only too 100 tokens to unlock level one, but due to a quest the next 4-hole daily I played jumped me up to part-way through to level three so I immediately lost the ability to work out the level jumps and game up!

Right now I'm something like a quarter the way towards level 11 and it shows that I need 280 more tokens. I play on PS5 for what it's worth just in case something different is happening on another platform. What I'm seeing very much fits with my expectations for this sort of thing though.

Whatever, I'm sure it's going to take a while to complete which is all I think we were originally talking about 🙂.

I'm also on the PS5 platform... it looks like I was paying attention to the wrong thing. I did see the progress bar above tracking tokens, but I assumed that it would have a 1 to 1 ratio with purchasing the level with the PGA TOUR POINTS you can buy with cash.

Apparently NOT... if you want to buy your way through the Pro Pass it is 150 points per level. While earning them through the quests increases incrementally.

You be right.

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@LemonDropKid wrote:
@ELF014I just wish to say that 1 round tournaments are a god send. I do not have time to clatter through 4 rounds. That being said I set the Majors to 4 rounds. This is how I choose to play. Thanks EA for doing this. Now if you would print somewhere a list of instructions to explain just how these rewards from the Pro Pass can be utilized when you already have your golfers maxed out at 50 points each (I have two) it would be appreciated ... thanks.

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I have no idea what you are talking about. Why are you asking me?

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@LemonDropKid wrote:
Now if you would print somewhere a list of instructions to explain just how these rewards from the Pro Pass can be utilized when you already have your golfers maxed out at 50 points each (I have two) it would be appreciated ... thanks.

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The XP are obviously useless just as the XP earned in the rest of the game are. Everything else (which is the overwhelming majority) are just as useful to those of at level 50 as they are to anyone else.

For me pretty much the single appeal of pro pass is the new top iron spec.

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:

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@LemonDropKid wrote:
Now if you would print somewhere a list of instructions to explain just how these rewards from the Pro Pass can be utilized when you already have your golfers maxed out at 50 points each (I have two) it would be appreciated ... thanks.

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The XP are obviously useless just as the XP earned in the rest of the game are. Everything else (which is the overwhelming majority) are just as useful to those of at level 50 as they are to anyone else.

For me pretty much the single appeal of pro pass is the new top iron spec.

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For myself I didn't see the value in the Pro Pass... once I maxed out my character there was nothing for me to grind for.

Other than the odd upgrade in a new spec. Which by the way were/are really slow in coming out. 

Everything in the Pro Pass was already easily accessible through Challenges or Tournaments and the Store. I don't see the need for the Pro Pass... other than it was a feature they had always planned to incorporate into the game. Other than a source of revenue for EA I don't see the revelance of it.

To be honest once I maxed out, and purchased a few articles of clothing, some equipment for my character I stopped playing Challenges and Tournaments.

I resorted back to a stock player to retain some challenge in the game. Then I pretty much stopped playing all together. Except with my group of friends.

If the equipment had attributes and there was a driving range, I could see myself testing to find my perfect setup and creating a yardage book for my distances. I actually did this for 2K... I play without an aiming reticule in 2K so yardages were controlled basically with loft. And with elevation and lie data turned off it made for a much more random experience.

Sad as it may be, right now I'm playing the game more than I have for ages specifically because pro pass has been added, as I want to make sure I get the new top iron spec. It may or may not end up in the store but in case it doesn't it's given me something new to aim for. I'm also having fun trying to get a bit more competitive online too.

I might be wrong.. but I was actually going to say I saw it in the store the Pro Pass was released. Either way the game has gotten to a point I didn't think I needed any better specs. To enjoy? The game.

But I understand where you are coming from. I saw on Facebbok someone has already completed the Pro Pass. That was short lived.

Hey guys and gals, this is at least a good discussion. However ... no one has answered my questions. I have all the best club set ups that I patiently added but I now have these Pro Pass Tokens being rewarded to me and have no idea how to utilize them or where they are stored after being rewarded.

Can any one explain this little puzzle? 🙂

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@LemonDropKid wrote:

Hey guys and gals, this is at least a good discussion. However ... no one has answered my questions. I have all the best club set ups that I patiently added but I now have these Pro Pass Tokens being rewarded to me and have no idea how to utilize them or where they are stored after being rewarded.

Can any one explain this little puzzle? 🙂

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You go to the Pro Pass section and claim each reward level that has been unlocked. The points aren't 'stored'. If you haven't done this you don't currently have the top iron spec.

Good thoughts Elf. Here is something that I would like to suggest as an improvement to the Pro Pass. I play just with my created players. I have created 4 now. Three of them have maxed out and are rated above 93 players. I enjoy the games. The last I created to honor my lifetime friend. We met when we were three years old and have been connected like brothers ever since. He passed away 8 years ago now. What I think would be a huge improvement to Pro Pass if each and every individual created player were able to progress up the ladder to 70. They cannot. Once your connection has reached the Pro Pass 70 all future gained tokens etc are useless. Having every new creation is the answer. Please add this to the next update. It would be very much appreciated by people like me that have people in their lives that mean so much and when created get so little.

I also like Elf's idea of a driving range and a putting green.

Thanks, LemonDrop

@Ultrasonic_77Thanks Ultra. This I know. What I am asking is what do I do with the 100's and 100's of awarded tokens that I still get after reaching 70 and claiming them all? I just posted a suggestion in a reply to Elf asking for inclusion in the next update of having each new created player being able to rise up the Pro Pass chain and have those claims added to that player only. I also liked his idea of a driving range and a putting green. All acquired tokens that are claimed after you reach 70 are useless. All bought Specs with both tickets and those yellow swing things (lol) apply to all your created players. None of the rewards from Pro Pass do.