hey EA thanks again for a golf game we can play on the PC.
having a great time so far. you know what we really need here for the PC Mouse players
is a realtime mouse swing like we had on TWO. it would drag in a whole new bunch of PC players.
also a great addition to this fine game.
TIA
@misterflugietime wrote:I had to uninstall the game - the way they originally had it set up, 3 click or using a controller to swing just doesn't interest me at all. I can only hope they implement mouse swinging for 2024.
I've been a 3 click player since their first golf game on the pc in 1986. Its the main reason I uinstalled the 2k sports game. But now that i've tried controller with this game. bought the cheap $15 logitech one before they added 3 click and I actually enjoy it man. You should at least give it a try, I don't even play 3 click now for the first time. I'm sorry I even asked them to put it in the game and I appreciate that they are keeping the online competitive mode to only one type of controls, the controller.
@davefv92 wrote:
@RichACI use a red dragon mouse 16 programmable buttons
and I have to go to the keyboard for nothing at all. it is a gaming mouse corded or cordless paid 40 bucks for it and I will say very well-spent money.
I have paid up to 150 for other gaming mice in the past but I like this ol cheapo the best. red dragon has really nice ad-ons and to be honest I am a big MSI person.
hvgd
like i said i bought the $15 dollar logitech controller to the play game. has a nice sporting feel, i've been a 3 clicker forever haven't looked at it now though.
Yep, I agree.
I pre-ordered the game thinking such an obvious feature (already found in the major competing title) would surely be in it. At release, I was heartbroken to discover otherwise. The keyboard/mouse mechanics that were there were ridiculous -- it would have been difficult to give any less thought to PC keyboard/mouse users.
I am certainly not interested in the 3-click "swing", Like others have said here, I want to enjoy the "feel" of a golf swing. And as a PC-only gamer, I don't want to have to mess around with a controller.
As I could find no discussions suggesting it was on EAs radar at all to introduce what seems such an obvious feature, I refunded the game the same day and will definitely not re-purchase unless/until they add that ability.
I see some comments here are blaming the lack on a perceived notion that using mouse/keyboard would be "unfair" to controller-only users. It's a frankly horrible excuse for omitting the feature -- what this represents to my mind, pure and simple, is a total lack of consideration for the PC player community. The entire interface on day one on PC frankly looked and behaved like a rushed console port, not so much designed as hastily patched in as an afterthought. After all the many (extra) months waiting for this title, it was a very sore disappointment.
Just as with many other titles where the difference between mouse/keyboard play and controller play can be significant, companies that WANT to court a large PC player base have invariably designed for that, including well-thought out keyboard/mouse mechanics. And WHEN deemed necessary for competetive online play, they have given hosts the option to set restrictions on who can participate. As I understand it, since EA went ahead and added the 3-click mechanic, they've implemented precisely that sort of mechanism. All the evidence points squarely to a lack of care for the PC market for the initial release.
I hope that changes, of course, and I'll continue to keep an eye out to see if a true mouse swing feature ever makes it onto EAs update list. But I guess I won't hold my breath.
I still have PC TW2008 DVD hoping it could some how be revived. NOT.
Anyhow I was excited to see EA finally come out with a PC replacement for it.
BIG PROBLEM. No horizontal tru-swing. How can something so fundamental and realistic for solo and coop play be left out.
Personally I don't care about multiplayer competition. Compared to the realistic horizontal tru-swing, 3 click is like a hack.
/just sayin' and won't buy until if/when this is implemented.
p.s. a little tweaking/updating with 2008 would have been easier and more sellable.
I believe the first mouse swing was introduced in PGA Championship Golf 1999 and still have the game but not sure it would run on any current operating systems. I still have TW08 installed on my Win 7 PC and it has a decent mouse swing. The gold standard for mouse swings is the one in Perfect Golf, RTSM, real time swing mouse. Somebody here mentioned one of the usual complaints about mouse swings, so called edging. However RTSM has two parameters that determine the flight of the ball, First there is tempo, expressed as a ratio. Ideally the downswing should be 4 times faster than the backswing, a ratio of .25. Depending on how low or high the ratio is, it will promote a draw, pull, fade and slice. The second parameter is the movement of the mouse. If you have an inside/out movement it will promote a draw or a pull if it is too pronounced. An outside/in movement promotes a fade or slice. The mouse movement replicates the swing path of a real golf swing. You golfers out there know what I mean. These two parameter also offset each other so you can sometimes see the spin of the ball in flight as the two counteract each other. The fact that there are two parameters means you cannot use edging as a cheat.
The other feature that makes RTSM way better than any other mouse swing is that there is absolutely no feedback display after each swing. The feel or synchronization of the mouse movement to the movement of the avatar is so precise that when you hit a bad shot you may actually think you know what you did wrong. Just like real golf the key word is "may" When playing real golf, how many times have you told yourself to slow your swing down? Because it is a ratio the mouse swing can be a slower swing like Ernie Els or a faster swing like Nick Price. Again it replicates real golf. If your mouse path is way off you can toe or heel it resulting in mishits such has hitting a driver with only 170 yards carry.
There is a site that hosts tournaments for Perfect Golf but it is a testament of how difficult RTSM is that only about 1 or 2 percent of the players use RTSM compared to 3 click which to me is strictly arcade and boring. In addition there are only 1 or 2 players using RTSM at the highest difficulty level, Tour Pro. I play at Pro level which gives me a chance to break par. 3 click on the other hand is so easy that I have seen players shoot as low as -54 in a 4 round tournament and that is at the highest difficulty level for 3C.
If they had RTSM in EA PGA Tour there is no doubt I would use it instead of the controller stick swing which to me has absolutely zero feel. As far as I can see there is a comparison of the length of your backswing and the speed of your downswing but all that does is affect your power.
In regards to click swing, I stopped using that when PGA 1999 came out
Full keyboard and mouse I cant stand using controller on PC.
@davefv92 wrote:hey EA thanks again for a golf game we can play on the PC.
having a great time so far. you know what we really need here for the PC Mouse players
is a realtime mouse swing like we had on TWO. it would drag in a whole new bunch of PC players.
also a great addition to this fine game.
TIA
yes thats great. bring back all the cheaters to an already dead and ragequit playerbase lol.
Full mouse control with a mouse. That's 3-click. You promised a 3-click swing with an OSD. I will buy the game (again) when we have a mouse doing the swing clicking.
