Too many times the ball will travel in a direction that doesn't make any sense.
For example, the wind is 7mph going left, I hit a centre perfect shot but the shot goes to the right of the aim arc, why does this happen?
It makes zero sense.
This doesn't always happen but can occur from time to time. I don't understand.
For those that say that the ball may be on an incline, this has happened off the tee.
I am failing to see how this is possible
@drewgriffiths wrote:I would say even less than 3% randomness because if I’m playing a round in real life, everything that happens on the course has a reason. If I hit a bad shot, it’d for a reason and I will know why. On this game, I could hit a bad shot and have absolutely no idea why it has happened. It’s one of the many things 2K get right and EA get so horribly wrong. There just needs to be more swing difficulty levels where the hardest needs to be more sensitive than it is now. I’d say 1% randomness purely as I don’t think 0% would be possible to keep things looking realistic. Just like on the real course, everything needs to happen for a reason and we should know why each time.
Absolutely agree with you with 2K getting it right. I have more control with my shots in 2K where good ones give good results and bad shots lead to bad results.
In EA PGA Tour, most good shots I made ended up going to left field or the bunker. I would intentionally aim for the bunker or rough to get the sand save and par save; that is when my shots end up being good within 5ft of the hole. Consistently getting great shots by aiming at rough or bunker is almost as unrealistic as professional wrasslin’.
I just remembered how TW14 had a better feel for the shot. Both the Tiger Woods Series and 2K have better control of shots.
@PinarelloFP3 wrote:MORE EVIDENCE THAT EA's GAME IS SCREWED UP!!! This just now, not 10 minutes ago!! 8 yards to the hole, set the strength for 4 yards and the ball ends up SEVEN yards BELOW the hole!! FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT ALREADY!!!!!
Looking at the screen you attached, it shows 21ft to the hole and 1ft of uphill elevation.
To make that putt, you should have been giving 35 ft of power. If you only gave 4 yard of power (12 ft), then being 7 yards short (21 ft) is about what should be expected......
I respectfully disagree, because the shot began 8 yards ABOVE the hole. So if I set the landing at 4 yards (12 feet) there is no way (at least on planet Earth) that the ball will travel the entire 8 yards (24 feet) and end up 21 feet from the hole (7 yards) plus the other 4 yards that it traveled after the shot was set to land 4 yards from the hole.
So, altogether, the shot was set up to fly 4 yards, yet it went a total of 15 yards!! You go ahead and try to
make a 4 yard shot travel 15 yards when you hit it for four yards. It’s INCONCEIVABLE.
@PinarelloFP3 wrote:I respectfully disagree, because the shot began 8 yards ABOVE the hole. So if I set the landing at 4 yards (12 feet) there is no way (at least on planet Earth) that the ball will travel the entire 8 yards (24 feet) and end up 21 feet from the hole (7 yards) plus the other 4 yards that it traveled after the shot was set to land 4 yards from the hole.
So, altogether, the shot was set up to fly 4 yards, yet it went a total of 15 yards!! You go ahead and try to
make a 4 yard shot travel 15 yards when you hit it for four yards. It’s INCONCEIVABLE.
All I can go by is your screenshot. I had assumed the screen was from prior to the shot and you were describing what happened to the ball after you hit the putt. If this was the case, then my analysis was correct.
If however, the screen was a post of the -result- of the shot you took, then the screen shot doesn't really tell me (or anyone else for that matter) anything as we can't see what your pre-shot lie/distance/club used/shot type used/ etc are.
Based on your last description, I'm wondering if you were off the green behind the hole and you did a chip? A 4 yard chip for an 8 yard distance is the correct amount of rollout on a level surface. However, if the screen was the result of your shot, one can see it was a severe downhill slope if you were chipping from behind. It would be very conceivable that such a chip would continue to slide downhill......
@ELF014 Here’s what I’d change about the game in how it plays
Spin is always natural and some of it is WAY WAY over the top.
Chip shots are far too short (ie from the start, I should be able to carry a 60 wedge chip at least 18-20 yards or more)
Cup physics feel artificial. Are there even any physics in this game?
We should be able to adjust lofts of our irons by a degree or so and also adjust lie angles to compensate for shots that go left or right (that might sound a lot to do actually!)
Have much less RNG in the game and harder swing difficulties added that make the swing more sensitive to deviations int he swing plane and tempo
Have more shot types available to us from the start. Even with my real world handicap of 14, I can flop one out of a high lipped bunker and get it to stop quickly. The blast shot on this game is absolutely useless. The finesse shot should also be available to us from the start
There’s definitely more id change about the game, but I’ll stop for now or I’ll still be here next week about this 😆
Just to show how simple the game is, I won the Amateur Championship on the hardest settings possible minus having the green grid on and after the 4 rounds, I was -30. Another thing I’d change on the game is the penalties for bad lies, it’s way too forgiving. I’d like to see a golf game where it’s less of a shootout and picking up shots is more of an achievement rather than simply standard. I’ve had some rounds where it’s like Golf Clash golf…. Anything less than a birdie is rubbish
@EA_Illium I’m not even a professional and I 1 million percent could have had valuable input that would have made this game much better. Spin is off in some instances, distances with various shot types is off, cup physics are poor, customisation is lacking, the store lacks items, the game also lacks control such as being able to adjust dynamic loft or attack angle
I’d even say all you need as far as shot types are the drive, approach, pitch and putt… blast as well out of bunkers even if it is so poor. So that’s 5 shot types
@drewgriffiths wrote:
@ELF014 Here’s what I’d change about the game in how it plays
Spin is always natural and some of it is WAY WAY over the top.
You are asking the wrong person, I have absolutely no idea how this games mechanics work. I don't understand why using the same club hitting to the same distance... where I land on an uphill lie and the ball rolls forward, or adversely when it lands on a downhill lie and spins back 30 feet.
Chip shots are far too short (ie from the start, I should be able to carry a 60 wedge chip at least 18-20 yards or more)
I hate the concept of all these different shot types... I think what you are describing though is the gap between a chip and a pitch shot. I personally consider it a chip if I am carrying a ball 20 yards.
Cup physics feel artificial. Are there even any physics in this game?
I haven't played the game in a month, but other than the roll overs, and the odd direction of a few lip outs. I'm kind of okay with the putting. However... I would like to see putts favour lip ins on the high side of the hole. Be I have never seen a golf sim do that. The hole mechanics should be offset to high side of the cup to receive the ball.
We should be able to adjust lofts of our irons by a degree or so and also adjust lie angles to compensate for shots that go left or right (that might sound a lot to do actually!)
I'm not sure what you mean by this comment.
Have much less RNG in the game and harder swing difficulties added that make the swing more sensitive to deviations int he swing plane and tempo
I absolutely agree with this comment, and have been fighting for this from the start. RNG should not be determining tye difficulty settings in a game. A perfectly executed shot should return in good result. PERIOD!
But in saying that I believe in a small amount of RNG to make the game feel more natural. Life is not perfect and neither are we.
Have more shot types available to us from the start. Even with my real world handicap of 14, I can flop one out of a high lipped bunker and get it to stop quickly. The blast shot on this game is absolutely useless. The finesse shot should also be available to us from the start
I don't play anymore but I was 9 handicap when I did. I didn't think I was a great golfer but I could get around a track.
I would rather NOT have shot types. Insteas just allow us to fully manipulate or player by opening the stance... and moving the ball forward and backwards in our stance.
Based on this we can hit whatever shot we want... and we can be creative about it. Of course the more you manipulate your stance, the better timing is required to execute the shot.
For different levels of players you can include a shot result line so people can learn what adjusting your stance does. And difficulty can be controlled by how sensitive the shot timing is.
There’s definitely more id change about the game, but I’ll stop for now or I’ll still be here next week about this 😆
There is lots in this game thst could be better... a good start for me would be if I could just find a good golfing experience in there somewhere.
When I stopped playing this game we were playing with base players (NO SKILL POINTS and NO SPECS), using SIM under the hardest settings. And it was still basically a birdiefest.
@ELF014 I’ll explain a couple of things and I know you’ll understand what I mean. Regarding chip shots, they’re just very unrealistically short in that it’s easy to play a 20+ yard chip shot in real life and by that I mean, the shot carries 20 yards. Pitch shots are also a little short too
What I mean by loft and lie angle adjustments is that for example, I might like my 5 iron to be a degree stronger to plug a little gap between that and the club above for example and by lie angle, I mean the angle at which the shaft points to when you address the ball. A flatter angle promotes a shot that launches left a little more for a right handed player whereas a more upright angle promotes a launch that goes more right. Of course this cannot be done cosmetically, but within the mechanics.
Regarding shot types, I’m going to agree with you. It’d be great for us to be able to manipulate our player’s stance and club so that we can get creative with our shot types
While I’m here, I’d really like to see penalty areas and OB areas marked on our hole maps. It’s frustrating to hit a shot, have RNG take over and the ball to land in an area that seems okay only for the game to tell us it’s out of bounds. I played a round at Royal Liverpool on the game and I actually referred to my real course yardage book for the course and it worked. I think I shot a 67 or something 😆
Thanks as always. It’s always good to see input from someone else who actually understands the game of golf. A 9 handicapper, trust me, thats a pretty good level. When was the last time you played for real? I’d love to hear.
Thanks again.
