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stukapooka's avatar
4 years ago

Ability discussion: barrel blast

Barrel blast

Barrel blast-default (gw2 and bfn)

Gw2 description: Hop inside your trusty barrel to shield yourself from attacks, but that's not all! Light the fuse and run towards your Plant foes an explosive surprise.

Bfn description:

Hide in a short-fused powder keg. Light fuse with [?]

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Captain Deadbeard hides in a wooden barrel with a fuse on it. He triggers the fuse which leads to the explosion of the barrel after a certain amount of time indicated by a visual dynamite stick fuse. While in the barrel, deadbeard will move slower than usual, but after he triggers the fuse, he moves faster. The explosion does up to 150 splash damage to the plants. The player also takes 75% less damage while in the barrel. 20 second cooldown. The duration is determined by how much deadbeard moves while on a timer much like burrow that goes down quicker when moving.

In bfn the barrel only lasts 15 seconds and has a 15 second cooldown. The barrel can take 100 damage before breaking and has no resistance, it can also still be destroyed while beginning to count down, removing the option to detonate it if done quickly enough. In addition, if a plant aims for the eye hole in the barrel, they can damage the captain normally though the eye hole which is miniscule.

Has a looty booty barrel blast variant in gw2.

Gw2 description: Yo ho ho, it's a barrel made of shiny treasure! Protect yourself from plants in style, and blast them away with a glittery explosion!

Has 2 upgrades.

Powder keg:

Captain Deadbeard gets launched higher from Barrel Blast.

Barrel Blast launches Captain Deadbeard 11.5m (37.73 ft) upward

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Incoming keg:

Move faster while in Barrel Blast.

Move 40.3509% faster while in Barrel Blast.

I really don't understand this ability in bfn.  The barrel being destroyable removes a lot of its effectiveness as it can be destroyed even when its lit. Chomper can also swallow deadbeard within the barrel so he's an easy counter. The damage radius is also really inconsistent.

The powder keg upgrade feels really redundant. I see many deadbeards in gw2 use the barrel blast as an actual technique to reach the high ground, especially on the moon. But why would you use this in a game where anchors away exists and you have the jump height of a kangaroo in bfn?

2 Replies

  • BfN's barrel blast moves too fast, especially with the upgrade, and is too often used as a kind of self-piloting bean bomb to wreak havoc on control points and carts. Being able to destroy the barrel makes it less useful in PvE when lots of weeds are beating on it too. It's an odd bird in BfN to be sure. There's nothing wrong with using an ability in different and creative ways (unless you use map exploits or other bugs), but it's too useful for an aggressive player in BfN as it is right now.

    In GW2, I tend to use it for its Chomp protection and to get out of a bad spot, the actual explosion I use more in PvE as it can take out several weeds at once, especially at the flag of power. 

    I prefer the armored version of it in GW2 over the BfN version where you can be shot out of it, but with how fast it is in BfN, you almost need to be able to shoot them out of the barrel to prevent them wiping out half your team. 

    It's a thematic and fun ability in general, but I prefer the slower speed and armor of GW2's version over BfN's.

  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
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    4 years ago
    @Iron_Guard8 Most deadbeards in gw2 use it to run or set up ambushes because they know how many abilities can stop them in their tracks. The resistance had to be buffed to 75% from 25% in gw2.

    I also prefer the gw2 version because some plants are way to easy to defeat due to the speed while other plants can destroy the barrel before the fuse goes off in bfn. The hit detection also is very inconsistent when your being shot at as I often die in the barrel rather than get shot out/the explosion is inconsistent.

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