Forum Discussion

stukapooka's avatar
stukapooka
Legend
4 years ago
Solved

Ability discussion: Burrow and sprint burrow

Burrow and sprint burrow Burrow-default Gw description: The Chomper's ultimate weapon. He has the ability to tunnel underground and ambush unsuspecting Zombies by emerging under their feet and...
  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
    4 years ago

    The original burrow meter was best indeed. That little extra bit of detail just adds a little something to the experience. 

    If I recall correctly, sprint burrow, like turbo jackhammer, got upgraded a bit in GW2. I still don't use it that often, but at least they are looking at discrepancies like that and making some fixed. 

    I know a lot of people complain about Chompers one-shotting them, which is likely a large part of why burrowing is weaker and far more obvious in BfN than before, but had the game used better netcode from day one, you'd not have so many issues with the ability; stuff like midair burrows, being chomped from the front, and so on, all go back to the netcode. They made the character far more powerful at range with slobber shot, but making a melee assassin character into a sniper wasn't exactly the best solution. As we discussed a couple months back, Chomper needs to be looked at in depth for the next shooter. 

Iron_Guard8's avatar
Iron_Guard8
Legend
4 years ago

Spikeweed is bad in BfN. I like being able to launch it, but they are so inaccurate when firing them at range and they are so easily destroyed that they are quite bad in BfN. They should definitely not return to instant arming like in GW2, I'd like them back to GW style much like sonic mines for the engineer and potato mines for the cacti, and give them a brief arming time so you can't cheese it out. I'd love to have the GW animation for stuck zombies back too.

I actually liked BfN's goop at first as it made Chomper feel more like a team player over the selfish playstyle that dominates the class in GW and GW2, but then they overdid it and it's too good now, especially for low health classes like Imp. 

I like the idea of a grappling weed. The biggest issue with GW was all the rooftop campers (mostly Foot Soldiers and Peashooters), and since those classes dominate the game, Chompers have a hard time when over half the zombie team is up high where you can't get them. Chomp Cannon in GW2 gave the class a nice surprise weapon. Getting to high ground is a huge part of most shooters so all classes need some kind of way to get up there, even if some are better at it than others.

stukapooka's avatar
stukapooka
Legend
4 years ago

@Iron_Guard8It also ridiculous to how spikeweed now deals 100 damage for no real reason in bfn. They're also far too bright in the art style and stick out like a sore thumb.

Gw1 had the best spikeweeds due to how they blended in well and no instant arming time bs. The animation of hanging zombies upside down was also really fun to watch and really added to a feeling "its got me" as a zombie.

Gw goop can help your team but its sadly used selfishly. Bfn goop was ok at first but than they buffed it to become a crowd wiping pita that's far too powerful.

Chomper sufferes the most out of every class against rooftop campers as he lacked the drone/stacking strategies of gw1, not saying everyone should have vertical positioning powers but every other class had some form of strategy.


Gw2 like you said had the chomp cannon, yeti, and the unicorn/twilight warps. To fight back with.

Bfn just killed vertical positioning altogether and gave everyone the jumping height of a kangaroo.

The vine/tongue is an idea I've seen passed around alot and I think it being an alt for goop would be fair as chomper loses crown control and zoning for movement.

About Plants vs. Zombies™ Franchise Discussion

Zombies trying to enter your house? Keep them in check and discuss the best gardening techniques on the community forum.27,676 PostsLatest Activity: 2 hours ago