AI or Human Opponents - What's worst?
I cannot remember if I have brought this up before, but having just returned from two games of Turf Takeover I find it inherently wrong and extremely frustrating (which is the reason I'm letting off ...
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I've never had a problem with the spawned AI in TT but that might be because I mostly play ops mode so I know how to deal with them and I also know the aggravation of a vase/coffin walking through everything . They aggro towards the last thing to damage them so you can use this to your advantage and lure them away though with armored spawns you have to hit them not their armor/shield. They also attack things by themselves so launching a fleet of them would result in them being more of helpers than game winners. You also have spawnable turrets, including a type specifically meant to break armor so its not like the AI is one sided even if people complain the turrets are useless they do their job as extras. As for them being against multiplayer, its up to human players to take advantage as well as deal with the spawned AI. Having one player deal with turrets/AI while the others deal with the opposing players is good teamwork.
I like the extra dimension of the pots/bots and the mobile AI in TT, part of why it's my favorite mode but people need to not ignore the AI in these matches and like posted by others here, I swear there are times I'm the only one dealing with them. Some people love to spawn hordes of the tougher ones to swarm the point with hard to vanquish AI to take the points but that's just part of the game really.
You can also nail them in the eyes slits on the tough weeds and zombie walkers with certain classes. Kernal Corn for example, is quite good at taking them out by doing so. You can shoot the feet too but you can crit them by shooting between the eyes and that can take them down surprisingly fast.
There are really only 2 problems you encounter:
When the AI units are severely overpowered OR when one team is outnumbered.
A good example of broken AI are the Scaredy-shrooms with infinite ammo.And a good example of outnumbered teams is simply when you have 4+ players less while the enemy team camps, shoots through walls/floor while masses of AI units take the base no one can defend.
I still say AI utilization should be restricted when a team is outnumbered. But if a team in an even match cannot deal with AI units its their fault.
That's where we disagree because, despite even numbers of players, the game isn't even for the simple reason that you as a defender also have to defend yourself against bots who are just as proficient in taking over a Garden/Graveyard as a human opponent. In other words, I am defending myself against a mixed bunch of 12+ opponents. I don't find that reasonable.
As I wrote initially (though not in that many words), I look upon multiplaying as a match between two teams where the success of a team is measured in terms of who is best able to position themselves, know the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing characters, use the ability best suited to their particular role in the game and read the way the game is developing. I just don't see bots as being part of that. PopCap seems to see it a bit my way in that they don't have bots in Mixed Mode (barring Gnome Bomb) where they perfectly well could have been part of the games in that game mode.
The bots have undoubtedly been included to give variation to the game, but if one is to have these things then at least not make it possible for them to take over a Garden/Graveyard. I could live with that.
