Are ALL Scientists REALLY Overpowered?
The Scientist is an... interesting character class.
He plays the role of the team's healer, with an array of abilities capable of healing himself and/or others.
However, being healer does not r...
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The devastation that can be caused by a skilled scientist player, even now, is still pretty ridiculous. It's only the long ranged Scientists that are still scary, though. Scientists seem overpowered only to those who don't know how to deal with them. I rarely die to scientists these days, no matter what class I'm playing as, because they've all got at least one handy trick with which to deal with them if they get close. As a sunflower, run backwards while firing. As a peashooter, activate hyper and fire downwards, etc.
Scientists just seemed overpowered because, back in vanilla, they were the only class that could come close to countering Rose. Unfortunately, with all the most devastating close range scientists being nerfed in some way (reduced ammo, reduced fire rate, reduced damage, etc, a lot of players can't use him as a frontline assault class like they used to.
Personally, I feel like only players who haven't found their groove complain about scientists being OP. He's really not.
@Thorgonator wrote:
Scientists seem overpowered only to those who don't know how to deal with them.
Then please tell me how to deal with a Scientist that is SUDDENLY in your face! Because that basicly usually how it is. Thats where the problem is.
I dnt mind them having a warp, but they should NOT be able to take you out with ~3 shots and not you being able to dodge them what so ever!!
THATS the problem!
H U G E spread and H U G E dmg together with a warp.
So you say he takes a big risk getting up close. Well let me tell you that you are most likely dead before you know it.
So tell me, how do you deal with him when he is in your face with his supergun? How do you move out of his spread?
The biggest problem i have with Scientists now is the Sticky Explody Ball. It allows the Scientist to abandon his healing once again and even cover ground he can't even see.
And once thrown behind an opponent like a flower, they will walk right into it to receive 50-100 dmg. So it can be even less than 3 hits to vanquish someone.
And then these balls have terrible hitboxes and way too much HP. I've had it so many times, that i stood there for 10 seconds shooting at a Sticky Ball that was in the way, only to see a blind team mate walk right into it.
@Berit wrote:Then please tell me how to deal with a Scientist that is SUDDENLY in your face! Because that basicly usually how it is. Thats where the problem is.
As Chomper you just Goop Spikeweed/Burrow. As Pea you immediatly go into hyper you hear the Teleport.
As Citron you can Ball up and speed away/into him or EMPeach him. As Corn you Husk Hop away or take him out with it.
As Rose you just Goatify him. As Torchwood you just roast him with the fire breath.
Only as Cactus and Sunflower you will have a hard time. The Cactus requires precice aim and Nuts/Potao Mines.
The Sunflower is most likely dead if the Scientist has full health. But a Heal Flower and the armor from Solar Flare Beam can help.
@Screion wrote:
The biggest problem i have with Scientists now is the Sticky Explody Ball. It allows the Scientist to abandon his healing once again and even cover ground he can't even see.
And once thrown behind an opponent like a flower, they will walk right into it to receive 50-100 dmg. So it can be even less than 3 hits to vanquish someone.
And then these balls have terrible hitboxes and way too much HP. I've had it so many times, that i stood there for 10 seconds shooting at a Sticky Ball that was in the way, only to see a blind team mate walk right into it.
@Berit wrote:Then please tell me how to deal with a Scientist that is SUDDENLY in your face! Because that basicly usually how it is. Thats where the problem is.
As Rose you just Goatify him. As Torchwood you just roast him with the fire breath.
Its not so easy when he keeps moving around and keeps firing his gun. He doesnt even have to struggle himself to aim at me because of the big spread.
I can turn him into a goat if im lucky to see him in time. If not, then I cant get away.
I have roughly 3 secs to react to find him, aim at him and turn him into the goat. Thats how fast you die if you are a rose.
If you play Sunflower you are toast, yes.
What do you meen by the "armor from the Solar Flare Beam" ?Sorry but I just hate the Scientist with a passion. Im so hoping they will fix that "HEALER" one day and turn it into what he is supposed to be. A SUPPORTCLASS and not a goddam ninja dps that kills things easier than DPS-characters. When will they see that something is clearly wrong here.
Pls give teleport and 3shot-kills to the Sunflower and im happy. How often do you see the Sunflower winning the kills and heals, huh ?
(not asking you directly ofc)stickies do 50 dmg. they're not much of a problem.
Thats like saying a Rogue in Wow deserves the kill because he suprised you.
50 is alot of dmg.
> usually how it is. Thats where the problem is.
> I dnt mind them having a warp, but they should NOT be able to take you out with ~3 shots and not you being able to dodge them what so ever!!
> THATS the problem!> H U G E spread and H U G E dmg together with a warp.
So you say he takes a big risk getting up close. Well let me tell you that you are most likely dead before you know it.
So tell me, how do you deal with him when he is in your face with his supergun? How do you move out of his spread?He deserved the kill because he surprised you. Also, by the time he warps to you, he's probably at ~60-70 health. It can be a bit cheap though. A good counter to scientists and all-stars is to get high ground. They can't kill you if you're high(not on drugs).
