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EA Staff

6 years ago

Balance Update 1/28

Balance Changes Character Hitbox adjustments Tuned (Increased) the hitbox sizes for Nightcap, Acorn, Rose, Imp, and Electric Slide. Velocity and Drag Distance – Certain characters were overpe...

Pheesley

6 years ago

The changes here aren't bad but I was expecting more...

This Needed:

- Damage drop-off as well ( the velocity and drag distance may not be the right decision, but I'm willing to try it)

- Healing and Overheal Nerfs and Scientist/Sunflower Survivability Nerfs (Warp and Sunny Side Up)

- Rocket Ride Damage Nerf ( Can wipe out groups of enemies way too quickly)

- Blue Blazes Damage Nerf ( Homing projectile that will hit almost every time. Does 125 damage and ONE SHOTS 7 of the 10 zombie classes. Which leaves All-Star, 80s, and Superbrainz with very little health.)

- Jazz Hands Nerf. I'm disappointed Time Snare got nerfed but nothing happened to Jazz Hands which also has long and frequent stuns

These are the biggest balance issues as far as I'm aware.

I am very surprised there was no changes to Sunflower or Scientist at all! Are people just not discussing these guys enough? These classes are probably the single most broken characters in this game. I am talking about Sunflower mostly, but both classes are extremely hard to kill with a good team backing them up. Their Healing is one of the biggest reasons why there are stalemates, and they can make a team unstoppable. This is a huge balancing issue that has been missed completely.

There is a lot that could be learned from looking back to the GW games, especially when it comes to Healing. Healing has never been this powerful, and I don't mind Overheal (as long as it's effect isn't permanent), but the GW2 in particular balanced Healing very well.

ToastedSarnie
6 years ago
@PheesleyHealers have ALWAYS had the capability to make or break a match. A good healer whether Sunflower or Scientist is worth their weight in gold!
Sunflower healing is powerful no doubt, but Sunflowers are FAR from impossible to kill, unless they are selfishly teamed up with another.

Personally, I would get rid of the over-health system completely & reduce Sunny Side Up a little but ONLY if something is done about her primary - whether that's increasing the rate of fire or adding splash through an upgrade. I would also completely over-haul the upgrades that are available, because most aren't worth using unless you're in PvE.

As it is, healing is the only asset Sunflower has & that's worthless in terms of xp. Sunflower is zero fun to play compared to the GW games & I'm seeing a lot less of them around because of that.
(Edit: spacing)
- Pheesley
  6 years ago
  @ToastedSarnie I do believe Healers should be capable of turning a match around, but the Healing is still too strong. I did not mean to say that Sunflower was impossible to kill, but it takes too long to kill them simply because they pressed a button. Personally, the biggest reason i find her not fun is because of her healing and survivability. Positioning with Sunflower is super important, but healing a decent team that pulls their weight + 3 charges of SSU... it's still too difficult to kill her. A little nerf on healing wouldn't be bad, but SSU should definitely only have 2 charges. I'll admit that her primary isn't very satisfying too use either, if it had more damage and 50 ammo she would feel a lot better.
  - ToastedSarnie
    6 years ago
    @Pheesley I know what you mean, I just don't want her messed with too much, or for her heals to be adjusted without compensation of some kind in her ability to defend herself.
    Personally, I've found it incredibly hard finding a team decent enough that I'm not dying 50 times over - without support, she's pitiful because of the strength in the opposition. It's possible to do well but you need to be playing very tactically & focusing more on your own survival than your team-mates & preferably not against a good / aggressive side - and tbh, 8 vs 8 isn't helping.
    Scientist isn't without issues too, but all he has to do is press a button & warp out of range, out of danger 😂
    I think support xp needs sorting out & agree both healers need fine-tuning, just asking that if it's done, it's done carefully!!
SpaceBoat_Joe
6 years ago
Scientist may be broken, but God, sunflower is worse.