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Oh god, please not another rage post about an OP card. :/
I agree that any "effect + conjure" card should cost at least 2 brains, like (Escape Through Time), but I don't think Barrel of Barrels is an OP card.
I don't know how other players... well... play the game, but that card never caused me too much trouble.
I mean, you can always suspect the zombie player's intentions.
If you see that he is saving 1+ brain for the trick phase, he is probably into something.
Instead of... you know... placing a plant directly infront of a zombie, you just play your plant elsewhere.
It is highly likely that the zombie hero will not play the Barrel of Barrels if there is no zombie who can hit a plant to kill it.
They usually save the trick for the "surprise factor".
Zombies usually are pretty weak, so you can kill them easily.
(With this I mean that they may have lots of attack, but they usually have low health)
Here are some cheap removals that can aid you in destroying any potential (or already) Barrel of barrels deadly zombie.
Berry Blast - Kabloom
Spikeweed Sector - Guardian
Whack-a-Zombie - Solar
@Azombioso in short of all your too much words, you said it all in the start " effect + conjure " should costs at least 2, that's exactly why it's overpowered , because it costs 1 and does all of that,
and, i don't mean to be rude , but i really don't need recommendations for cards i know them all TOO well, i''m an ultimate league achiever every season, i just don't want people reading to think i'm a new player complaining , i'm just too good at this 😛 , if you are a zombie player please give me your username we can duel 😉
- 8 years ago
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1 cost Banana Peel : two actions: Move zombie (avoid deadly uh?) + conjure banana plant.
1 cost Garlic : A plant with 5 health, can move zombie, and have team up.
1 cost High voltage Current: A berry who can increase the strength, also conjure another berry,
1 Lima Pleu... : have 2/2 (tough) and shuffle magic bean every time you draw/conjure a card...
Of course if you compare Squash with barrel, it seems very unbalanced, they are not a couple, the counterpart of Squash is Locust Swarm (Destroy a plant with 5 brains).
We can compare Tankylosaurus with Bluesberry? Tankylosaurus do 2 damage every time when you draw a card and cost 4 and have 2/6, BUT Bluesberry cost 5!!!! and have 3/3 and only deals 2 damage once !
we can't compare one plant card with one zombie card, has no sense, you need to see the whole deck together...
you say you're a old player and in another post you said that Astro Shroom is not very powerful, and you compare Barrel with Squash? 😛
you need to know: soon will come Primal Wall Nut, have 6 of health, team up, untrickable and draw a card. Deadly is the salvation for zombie, its the form to destroy early that nut.
- Anonymous8 years agoYou meant that primal wallnut is 0/9. And last I saw it conjures a card cost at least four. And untrickable and teamup.
And leave the barrel of barrels alone. It was the only decent card that Sneaky got in Colossal- Anonymous8 years ago
@patdk75 you just say decent because it's obviously OP lol .. ok make it kills any zombie and conjures a barrel and uncommon BUT AT LESAT IT MUST COST 2 OR 3 ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?!!!! all of these things for just an uncommon 1 cost card !! too greedy man
- Anonymous8 years ago
@BlazinsZ first of all , all the cards you mentioned are a rare card and 2 events cards and 1 legendary , so cut the * we are talking about an uncommon card, second all of these effects are not as direct as KILLING ANY PLANT whatever it's abilities was, moving a plant / gaining a +1 attack when a berry does damage / shuffling magic beans are all long term moves that can be screwed early/easily , not instant as KILLING A PLANT so your comparison is pure * and just showing off that you know some cards names lol
sorry but i won't be calm or respectful cause you are playing pedant and speaking like a philosopher and indirectly mocking my wordsi'm a kabloom/ solar expert, i know everything about these two classes, and yes astro shroom is TOO WEAAK IN THE ASPECTS OF HEALTH COMPARING TO QUICKDRAW CON MAN AND THIS IS SO OBVIOUS !! 1 to 4 !! and it's not even a team up !! astro shroom isn't a weak card but comparing it to a card with the same cost and same classifying " super rare " and both have bullseyes , quickdraw con man is the same everything but much much more healthier and this was my point so please don't play cool using deep words and meanings while you just didn't understand any of my words , and yes i compare barrel of barrels with squash only about the cost of them both !! how taking away a zombie can be so expensive and taking away a plant costs you literally nothing except 1 bring an not even a card !!! so please again don't play philosopher while you are really speaking about things i didn't even mean mr plato .. i hope i'm more clear now
- 8 years ago
@z_elmo21 wrote:@BlazinsZ first of all , all the cards you mentioned are a rare card and 2 events cards and 1 legendary , so cut the * we are talking about an uncommon card, second all of these effects are not as direct as KILLING ANY PLANT whatever it's abilities was, moving a plant / gaining a +1 attack when a berry does damage / shuffling magic beans are all long term moves that can be screwed early/easily , not instant as KILLING A PLANT so your comparison is pure * and just showing off that you know some cards names lol
That is the point that told you, we can't just compare one card with one card, I put that as an example.
About pedant, mock... I am the one who is saying : '' i'm just too good at this 😛'' no...
I used 😛 because you used it first and I found it annoying, it seems that it also bothers you.
let's be friendly from the beginning,
- Anonymous8 years ago
@z_elmo21 wrote:@Azombioso in short of all your too much words, you said it all in the start " effect + conjure " should costs at least 2, that's exactly why it's overpowered , because it costs 1 and does all of that,
and, i don't mean to be rude , but i really don't need recommendations for cards i know them all TOO well, i''m an ultimate league achiever every season, i just don't want people reading to think i'm a new player complaining , i'm just too good at this 😛 , if you are a zombie player please give me your username we can duel 😉
I love how you say that you're an UL player and you are ''too good at this'', but yet make angry posts with caps on on an online forum.
If you were too good at this, you would have figured out a way to beat it. Many people have given you suggestions too, but you chose to make angry full caps responses instead.
Also, you chose to be a plant player, which brings me back to my old statement:
I will not ask for your age (although I could guess), but I can taste your salt all the away across the internet and it tastes gooood.
- Anonymous8 years ago
FOR GOD'S SAKE I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYONE'S HELP !! why is everybody teaching me lessons about how to be a good person and fight anger and seek inner peace WHAT THE HELL why don't you write your opinion about what i ******* said about the freaking card !! why can't you just mind your own business guys ?!! if someone asked for help it's so good to help him but i mentioned like 4 times i didn't ask for help or wise words i'm just discussing the card WHAT THE HELL MADE MY PERSONALITY THE CENTRE OF THE TALK !! are you all out of your mind or i'm just not that clear ?!!!!!
and being good at the game can exist at the same time with facing an OP card that i think is unfair, is it a crime to say my opinion about something i don't like ?!! lol
and i'm 24 , could've said none of your business but i swear i'm trying to be friendly as much as i can but you all are playing mr wise philosopher and it's so sillya great idea !!!! WHAT IF WE JUST DISCUSS THE FREAKING CARD AND WHAT I SAID ABOUT IT ?!!! JUST THE FREAKING CARD !! IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU NOT PLAY WISE !!
- Anonymous8 years ago
FOR GOD'S SAKE I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYONE'S HELP !! why is everybody teaching me lessons about how to be a good person and fight anger and seek inner peace WHAT THE HELL why don't you write your opinion about what i f said about the freaking card !! why can't you just mind your own business guys ?!! if someone asked for help it's so good to help him but i mentioned like 4 times i didn't ask for help or wise words i'm just discussing the card WHAT THE HELL MADE MY PERSONALITY THE CENTRE OF THE TALK !! are you all out of your mind or i'm just not that clear ?!!!!!
and being good at the game can exist at the same time with facing an OP card that i think is unfair, is it a crime to say my opinion about something i don't like ?!! lol
and i'm 24 , could've said none of your business but i swear i'm trying to be friendly as much as i can but you all are playing mr wise philosopher and it's so sillya great idea !!!! WHAT IF WE JUST DISCUSS THE FREAKING CARD AND WHAT I SAID ABOUT IT ?!!! JUST THE FREAKING CARD !! IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU NOT TO PLAY WISE !!
- 8 years ago
@z_elmo21 wrote:FOR GOD'S SAKE I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYONE'S HELP !! why is everybody teaching me lessons about how to be a good person and fight anger and seek inner peace WHAT THE HELL why don't you write your opinion about what i f said about the freaking card !! why can't you just mind your own business guys ?!! if someone asked for help it's so good to help him but i mentioned like 4 times i didn't ask for help or wise words i'm just discussing the card WHAT THE HELL MADE MY PERSONALITY THE CENTRE OF THE TALK !! are you all out of your mind or i'm just not that clear ?!!!!!
and being good at the game can exist at the same time with facing an OP card that i think is unfair, is it a crime to say my opinion about something i don't like ?!! lol
and i'm 24 , could've said none of your business but i swear i'm trying to be friendly as much as i can but you all are playing mr wise philosopher and it's so sillya great idea !!!! WHAT IF WE JUST DISCUSS THE FREAKING CARD AND WHAT I SAID ABOUT IT ?!!! JUST THE FREAKING CARD !! IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU NOT TO PLAY WISE !!
I hate to break it to you, but freaking out about it is probably just going to encourage people to do it more, just to tease you. Probably the best thing you can do is ignore it and just focus on the conversations that are about the card.
That being said, it's undoubtedly a good card, but it does have limitations to it. First and foremost, you need a zombie in the correct lane to get the most out of the card. Secondly, there are so many cheap Team-Up plants (including a 0-cost) that you run a pretty decent risk of the opponent just blocking your Deadly zombie and preventing you from taking out a more troublesome plant. Letting it conjure a card helps mitigate some of the drawbacks, at least. It's a good card, but hardly broken.