Berries MUST be Nerfed
I have never called for nerfing before. I also thought some of the nerfing, like with Valkyrie, were maybe not needed but still was not upset about it. But now I feel the Strawberrian/Strongberry com...
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I guess we have to agree to disagree. I don't think Berries are balanced now. Beatable does not equal balanced. It is too easy to wipe out an entire board on rounds 3-4-5 with berries. And if you happen to get some unlucky draws as a zombie, you are toast. The combination of Strawberrian hitting each for one when another berry played, plus the strongberry hitting for an additional 2 is just too much "bonus hits". Add in a second Strongberry and forget about it. Only Legendary cards like Gargantuan Thrower etc can help at that point. It just should not be that easy (translation: no legendary needed) and cheap to build that strong of a deck. There are no other examples like this in the game. The closest would be an Astro-Shroom/Admiral Navy Bean/Planet of the Grapes combo. But that is FAR more beatable than your basic Berry deck.
Speaking of ... how the heck are Grapes "berries"? First time a squirrel wrangler destroyed my grape environment I was like, WTH? 😛
Grapes are technically berries... Strawberries on the other hand, are not. Crazy, right?
While I would normally agree with your sentiment because of their win loss ratio at lower levels of play, that is brought in by players refusal to adapt and not the core of the mechanics. Much like I truly believe zombies were not overpowered in series 3, and plants simply refused to adapt.... ... And look at how those nerfs neutered many of those cards.
I get it. I have most cards and reach level 50 quickly. But I am tired of only playing Berries. I HAVE adapted - I just don't think I should be forced to play one way to win. Just sad ... another pointer to the dying of this fun game.
I completely agree with everything you just said. I know you can beat them, which makes it ask the more ffrustrating to play them constantly, I really do understand that. Like I said, I don't believe series 3 was overpowered, but uI wa incredibly tired of playing the same decks constantly, so I feel your pain.
It's not bad for plants right now to level of zombies, but the whole game is stuck in a rut. I see maybe ten different decks constantly (as opposed to just cyclecap, berries and heals), with a few outliers that either blow my mind or are completely terrible.
I'm really hoping this delay leads to a few new expansions and creative cards that can truly shake up the meta and open the game up. I just don't want to see berries nerfed... Partially because it doesn't need it in my opinion when facing more experienced opposition, but also because I'm one of the originators of the deck lol I posted it back when people thought berries were trash. Nobody wants to see their baby get unjust treatment!
@daalnnii wrote:
I just don't want to see berries nerfed... Partially because it doesn't need it in my opinion when facing more experienced opposition, but also because I'm one of the originators of the deck lol I posted it back when people thought berries were trash. Nobody wants to see their baby get unjust treatment!I get that ... I was one of the first to play the Astro-Shroom/Admiral Navy Bean/Planet of the Grapes deck, without ever seeing anyone else doing it. So now when I see it, I think, "HEY!" But like I said, that one is very beatable ... especially if you never get Planet of the Grapes or they keep getting over-written.
@daalnnii wrote:I completely agree with everything you just said. I know you can beat them, which makes it ask the more ffrustrating to play them constantly, I really do understand that.
I guess the part that bugs me is when they DO beat me, for some reason I picture them being all smug about it. LOL
